Talk:Seth MacFarlane

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Personal life, atheism[edit]

Quote: "MacFarlane is an outspoken atheist, and has referenced his criticism of religion through many of his works, most notably through Family Guy". First of all, the source given does not mention MacFarlane as being an atheist. MacFarlane mentions Carl Sagan as being a noted atheist. Secondly, shows like the Family Guy is written by a team of executive producers. A source is needed to verify that the collective work of the teams of executive writers "has referenced his (MacFarlane's) criticism of religion". MacFarlane is also an actor, as an actor he conveys the sentiment of the team of executive producers, unless otherwise sourced by reliable sources. 2A02:AA1:102E:6CAB:1CA0:6D62:A3B6:D765 (talk) 23:19, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hence my removal of the unsourced content but @Ziggy Coltrane: seems to disagree with removing unsourced material. It might be his personal views but those aren't reflected in any of the shows. Especially American Dad and Family Guy (unless we count Brian which is one character). But apart from that outspoken means every form of media and role. One character and his own personal real life are two separate things. So unless a source clarify it and him using it in every media of his. It's WP: Original research. DragonofBatley (talk) 08:05, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, Seth hasn't experienced a relationship with God. When and if he ever does, he will find out that God is not "some guy in the sky." He is inside of all of us. It's just a matter of accessing him to feel him.
It is quite an Awakening. One that you will not find in church. 2603:9000:8000:AD30:FE17:917A:43B9:FAE3 (talk) 22:34, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'll correct myself on that one. I personally did not get that feeling in church. Fortunately, I had the gift of desperation and I had nowhere else to go. How blessed I am that God came to me. 2603:9000:8000:AD30:FE17:917A:43B9:FAE3 (talk) 22:37, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hey my name is Annika Thomas can you please stop because it’s ruining my life 104.246.132.29 (talk) 06:37, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

'LGBT Advocacy' section title should be changed to 'Gay Advocacy' or similar[edit]

All the examples are only pertinent to homosexuality. No broad "LGBT" advocacy. One of the two sources explicitly pertains to his gay following and beliefs about homophobia and gay men, and the other references his advocacy for same-sex marriage equality. Zanahary (talk) 01:36, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No one calls it "gay advocacy", stop being daft. It almost comes across as a slur. Zaathras (talk) 03:47, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A quick search through WP for "gay advocacy" will show that lots and lots of people call it that. But okay, I've changed it to "gay rights advocacy". Zanahary (talk) 03:55, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No. Zaathras (talk) 02:26, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I came here to make the same correction as Zanahary. Seth MacFarlane is famously wildly transphobic, to the point that inaccurately labeling his gay-rights comments as "LGBT Advocacy" comes across as deliberate misinformation. Ignoring the hysteria of referring to "gay advocacy" as a "slur", a quick search reveals the phrase "Gay Rights Advocacy" (Zanahary's recent edit, and my vote for best phrasing) is very well precedented on WP, including in section titles (what is being discussed here). The edit logs suggest Zaathras isn't going to quit fighting this edit any time soon, but given "Gay Rights Advocacy" is now the consensus view on this page, and given he has decided not to engage in good-faith discussion ("No. Zaathras (talk) 02:26, 11 November 2023 (UTC)"), I'd encourage him to desist. Pending time for further constructive discussion on this page, I will go ahead and make the edit; From "LGBT Advocacy" to "Gay Rights Advocacy". (Also, please do not call other WP editors "daft") GorfTab (talk) 01:14, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I like your idea. I will be happy when you do it! Zanahary (talk) 03:11, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've gone ahead and made the edit myself. Zanahary (talk) 03:14, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It seems to me that the section on MacFarlane's transphobia should be restored, perhaps with better sources? It looks like there was a section, but it was removed in the 23:33, 13 September 2023‎ edits. It also seems like maybe MacFarlane's transphobia has dulled somewhat in recent years (see, e.g., this article), but not entirely (e.g., this article). Having a section with only same-sex rights advocacy while ignoring MacFarlane's definite anti-trans expressions over the years could lead readers to think that he's generally pro-LGBT. Indeed, as this topic shows, some people do seem to think he's generally pro-LGBT, when in fact that positivity is much narrower. 2401:E180:8890:EBEE:F57B:9347:B82C:A237 (talk) 06:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your Advocate source is not BLP-worthy, as it's a review of a show MacFarlane heads. The next source is also not important enough for this article; maybe would be good for the Family Guy article.
Also, jokes that people find offensive in his shows are not related to his off-TV activism and sincere advocacy. Zanahary (talk) 07:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 17 January 2024[edit]

In the section on American Dad!, please change 'The purpose of the network relocation was originally to make room for new animated broadcasts, such as Mulaney and another animated series from Seth MacFarlane called Bordertown, on Fox's now-defunct "Animation Domination".' to 'The purpose of the network relocation was originally to make room for new comedies on FOX, such as Mulaney and another animated series from Seth MacFarlane called Bordertown on Fox's now-defunct "Animation Domination" programming block.'

This is because Mulaney was not an animated series -- it was a sitcom filmed in front of a live studio audience. Additionally, it is highly unclear what Animation Domination might be in this context from reading the article alone. Chazifraz (talk) 02:51, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done
18:04, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

SEMI-PROTECTED EDIT REQUEST (1/18/2024)[edit]

Hi, I'm new to Wikipedia editing so I apologize if I'm not doing this correctly, but I am requesting that somebody correct the following error, which is in the American Dad! portion of the Career section:

"It was announced on November 4, 2013, that Barker would depart American Dad! after 10 seasons as producer/co-showrunner, due to creative differences as production for season 11 on TBS began."

[1]https://www.huffpost.com/entry/american-dad-shakeup_n_4218021

[2]https://deadline.com/2013/11/american-dad-executive-producerco-showrunner-mike-barker-exits-626426/

I read through both cited sources, and the bit about creative differences is incorrect. One of the two sources does not mention why Barker left the show at all. And the other source, the Deadline article, says this:

"I hear the change at the helm was made over concerns that the show was not running smoothly."

This is not enough to objectively state why Barker quit American Dad. As far as I am aware, Barker has never formally confirmed why he chose to leave the show, and the idea that it was due to creative differences is just a rumor. ADDER333 (talk) 20:37, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done M.Bitton (talk) 12:48, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]