Talk:Antisemitism in Christianity

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Semi-protected edit request on 31 October 2018[edit]

ok, I am new at this and have something to contribute to this article, but first the opening paragraph is redundant. antisemitism as the article begins referrers to "christian a, b, c and summates with all christian groups. While the conclusion is obvious the predicate is marbled with distinctions that within the same sentence are logically rendered irrelevant. The point is, "if I were to say that Ford, Dodge and the remaining car manufactures deceived the public on "x"", would I really be saying after unpacking the hyperbole,, "car manufactures deceived the public on "x"". Vete1960! (talk) 06:15, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Not done It's not clear what changes you want made. I see there's more detailed discussion in the section below, which may clear things up, but an edit request should include a specific requested change. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 12:31, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 8 January 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Antisemitism in Christianity per consensus below. (non-admin closure)Ammarpad (talk) 08:18, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Christianity and antisemitismChristian antisemitism – Per WP:AND, avoid the use of "and" in article titles in ways that may appear biased. feminist (talk) 04:15, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

  • Support per nom and WP:PRECISE, one might guess this was largely about Christian-Jewish reconciliation. (talk) 07:09, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Cautious support I think there are valid reasons to oppose either name. It could be argued, for instance, that "Christian antisemitism" makes it sound as if Christianity is inherently antisemitic, and many Christians believe that antisemitism is not Christian. However, I think the suggested name is a better choice per WP:PRECISE. Ultimately, if this page is moved, Islam and antisemitism should be moved to Islamic antisemitism to avoid any seeming bias. (Edit: another possible name would be "Antisemitism in Christianity", which echoes related articles on Antisemitism in the United States, Antisemitism in the UK Labour Party, etc.) buidhe (formerly Catrìona) 10:23, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
    I agree that Islam and antisemitism should be moved as well. feminist (talk) 14:29, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
    RM opened at Talk:Islam and antisemitism. buidhe (formerly Catrìona) 14:57, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Support. The existence of Christian antisemitism is not denied (except by hardcore deniers) - and does not imply that all Christians are antisemitic. I agree with Buidhe that "Antisemitism in Christianity" is also preferable to the current "and" title. Icewhiz (talk) 12:03, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Support This article is about anti-Semitism in Christianity, not about how Christianity reacts to anti-Semitism, which is precisely what the proposed change in name would reflect. Debresser (talk) 14:00, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Support This article is clearly about anti-Semitism within Christianity, as seen in the very first sentences of the lede: Christianity and antisemitism deals with the hostility of Christian Churches, Christian groups, and by Christians in general to Judaism and the Jewish people. Christian rhetoric and antipathy towards Jews developed in the early years of Christianity and was reinforced by the belief that Jews had killed Christ and ever increasing anti-Jewish measures over the ensuing centuries. The action taken by Christians against Jews included acts of ostracism, humiliation and violence, and murder culminating in the Holocaust.[1]:21[2]:169[3]. It is not Christianity WP:AND anti-Semitism -- that is in fact a different and wider topic, and naming it so is a whitewash at best. Furthermore, analogous action should be taken at Islam and antisemitism, a similar case.--Calthinus (talk) 02:07, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Support per Icewhiz. Mathglot (talk) 08:27, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Support It specifies what the topic is, which the current title fails to do. Dimadick (talk) 12:25, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose; Move to Antisemitism in Christianity. Rreagan007 (talk) 02:14, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Support a change. Prefer Antisemitism in Christianity, which is also better for search & indexing purposes. Johnbod (talk) 16:13, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Support alternate title Antisemitism in Christianity per above. It's clearer than both the current and the proposed title, and objectively sets the scope of the article. Bradv🍁 16:26, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

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