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Harry Everett Smith[edit]

Thanks for the fix Zosodada 21:34, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)


Concerning the Constitutionality article: Any word on whether the "technical problems" have been fixed so that speedy deletions can happen? RJII 21:05, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)


You wrote at WP:AN: "It doesn't make sense to block the sock puppet for less time than the puppeteer." I quite agree. However, I'm unconfortable with blocking all his user names indefinitely. Not that I thought he actually would change his behavior... but blocking him indefinitely on sight wherever he pops up is effectively banning him—and he hasn't been banned yet. We janitors do not have a license to ban—we may block for vandalism, but to enforce a ban, we'd actually need an ArbCom ruling. I think we should block only the sockpuppets forever, but his first account Sud-Pol only for a limited time (e.g. a month or two). In that way, we'd follow the letter of our policies and achieve basically the same effect, for his "main" account could and would be re-blocked if he started doing his vandalism again. BTW, he isn't very Wikipedia-savvy: a true troll would have filed complaints agianst the blocking admins long ago, and would try to hide his doings better. I rather have the feeling that he is a very poor and truly deranged soul. Lupo 07:33, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)


Apollomelos2 is an account created by Noah Peters to further attack me. Apollomelos 03:46, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

redirection of Indonesian province names[edit]

Sorry but that was Wik using his Gzornenplatz sock puppet to continue his revert war from last year.--Daeron 12:20, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Was there any consensus reached among other users about the page titles? -- Curps 17:47, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Same as last year, John uses pseudo logic to argue his Point Of View; but if he loses ground and sounds as if he is about to relent on any point; another person suddenly appears to break up the discussion. This time it was this "OneGuy" person; after several comments "OneGuy" started sounding like John_Kenney ..
on checking their contributions for pass month they never do heavy editing at the same time, their activity periods tend to dove-tail together; just as John jumped to defend Wik last year, so too OneGuy has jumped to defend Gzornenplatz now, where OneGuy argument sounds very much like John again. And I found a page of Wikipedians by numbers of contribution showing John typically does 1600 edits/month (1100-2400) but in the last update drops to 264 while the new OneGuy does 1162, I am becoming increasingly suspicious that "OneGuy" is John's sock puppet for his pro-Islam edits & when he wants to kick butt.--Daeron 16:34, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

revision code[edit]

Why did u delete the paj revision code it waz kewl -- Lunar Jesters

"A revision code is a thing". Nuff said. -- Curps 02:29, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/Elara (moon)/archive1[edit]

Can we archive this? Is the issue fully resolved now? - Ta bu shi da yu 03:01, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Yes, it can be archived. -- Curps 06:24, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Cheers. - Ta bu shi da yu 04:41, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)


Can you please look into W:VIP for user listed yesterday in the current alerts? Nobody has issued a temp. ban yet and user hit the same article once again today deleting information and replacing it "with the sake of brevity" then insturcting those interested to visit outside websites. Has far as I knew on Wikipedia we didn't delete relevant information that a Wiki wrote and then tell those interested to find out themselves on a different website. And this users seems to have a history which I listed of more direct vandalism towards gay-related and communtist-related entries. Please check into it, it would be helpful since nobody else has seemed to do so. 21:37, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

On the surface, the latest edits to Homosexuality look more like an edit war than clearcut vandalism by either side. Admin powers have to be exercised within the limits of Wikipedia policy, so I don't believe there are grounds for an admin to block a user here. Also, this appears to be an AOL address, so it's very likely that previous edits (days or weeks or months ago) by this anon IP could have been an entirely different person. -- Curps 21:48, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)


Sorry about that Muya 06:46, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

It's OK, we caught it at the same time. It kind of stood out among the Recentchanges entries. -- Curps 06:47, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Fiona Apple[edit]

Thanks for protecting Fiona Apple. I'm glad others noticed what was going on there, with multiple(?) anonymous users pasting in what looks to be a magazine interview article. What next? --Arteitle 16:52, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC)

External Links?[edit]

Hi, I don't understand why you keep removing the external links I am adding to my own site. I'm only adding them to pages where they are relevant and benefitial to the user. Does it matter whether I do it on 2 pages or 20 pages, as long as they are relevant, that's what should count, right?

It could be considered a form of spamming. I only removed the links from Gardening, Houseplant and Cactus if I remember correctly; in other cases you added a link to a specific page within your site so that seemed OK. Also you added some Amazon affiliate links, which I changed to a more neutral ISBN link form. -- Curps 20:40, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)


I don't understand the justification for the speedy deletion of the image. It is certainly relevant for the article, and is acceptable under fair use. Discussion on Talk:Autofellatio has convinced me that the image is perfectly appropriate for the article. --SPUI (talk) 03:00, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)


Re: - W ----- Blocked for vandalism.

By now, I am aware that AOL gives many of us common user ID's for your system. --- so this number is now blocked. But, I did no vandalism. I do plan to set myself up on the system, once I figure it out and discover the advantages. However, it would be nice for me -- and other AOL users -- not to be summarily blocked en mass. If you have questions about me and what I've been doing,I've been signing things with a -W. I've been working on several pages under pottery. You can leave a message for me under native american pottery, which is one of several pages I've started in that area. -W 2-09-05

Yi Seok[edit]

Ok, I'll do my best. I was actually planning to do more or less as you suggest. I just need to find some time. --BM 03:05, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)


I didn't unprotect it! When I got to that page it was unprotected already. I did unprotect PHP. The m:Spam_blacklist already has all that spam on the filter however. - Ta bu shi da yu 08:46, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

  • S'OK, I don't mind. Spammers are annoying :-) Ta bu shi da yu 12:25, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Timeline of the Axial World's History[edit]

Thanks for putting it on vfd. I guess I was too quick in deleting it. Mgm|(talk) 11:25, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)

    • Thanks for letting me know about Myg0t. :) Mgm|(talk) 11:42, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)


Done. Bearcat 20:08, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Done. But I've done surprisingly little watchlist-watching since the beginning of the year, so don't expect too much from me... Mgm|(talk) 21:07, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)


Could be anyone in the BT netblock [1].

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Ta bu shi da yu 02:06, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)


I don't know if my user page was on your watch list, or if you followed the vandal's trail, but thanks for reverting my page. :) --Golbez 19:40, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)


...about getting angry at the loathesome sockpuppetry accusation on the Democrazy VfD. I modified my comment, and that version stays unless Dwain withdraws or apologizes for his remark. --Calton 10:13, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Jewish ethnocentrism[edit]

How can I restore only part of the history? Mikkalai

The censorship just happened draws more members in the ranks of anti-Semites, I am afraid. I am not at all for this article. Even if I misinterpreted the policy, the way the oponents were fighting me was disgusting and outrageous. The term is in circulation, but qoting: "wikipedia does not want an article with this title". 1984. Mikkalai 20:24, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I perfectly understand what people think about me. But are you listening to what I am saying? The term is in circulation, hence a valid topic for an article. The statemnt about "deletion of a title" is a frightening attitude. My version is not at all "recreation". It was a brief and neutal explanation of the usage of the term. If my explanation is wrong, please fix it. But attempts to erase every trace of some words leads to consequences very well known in the history. Mikkalai 20:51, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Dunno nothin about Chinese ethnocentrism, but Sinocentrism is alive and kicking. Mikkalai 22:41, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I didn't see that it was arecent deletion. Anyway, I am not especially interested in the issue. It is an arbitrary extension of the authority of the VfD that bothers me strongly: vfd is either delete or not. Saying that Vfd bans redirects and other articles is way overboard. I am too lazy to discuss this at the policy page. Let someone more vigorous than me and more eloquent in English defends the freedom of speech. I think I gave the problem some visibility. If everyone else thinks it is OK to ban some words forever, I am sorry for the community, but I'll spend my time somewhere else. My monthly quota of political debates is exhausted. Mikkalai 23:14, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The other problem you've given visibility to is that admins don't have the power to block other admins who abuse their powers, as you did when you unprotected the blank page so you could write on it; and that is a problem I intend to pursue, so don't think this has gone away, and don't think you've succeeding in highlighting only the issue you intended to highlight. SlimVirgin 23:33, Feb 13, 2005 (UTC)
Well, I think Mikkalai has withdrawn his attempts to recreate the article for now. But it's up to you if you wish to formally pursue an RfC or RfArb. -- Curps 23:44, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your note, Curps. I should have clarified what I meant, and I may go back and do that. I'm very grateful that you responded as you did. What I meant was the lack of response to the complaint about Mikkalai's behavior. I didn't know that admins aren't allowed to block other admins for abusing their admins' powers. I know that now, but still wonder why he can't be blocked for vandalism. He recreated a deleted article (the vote to delete was overwhelming at VfD and a subsequent VfU) and redirected it to a page containing arguably anti-Semitic content. When his recreation was deleted, he created it again. Then instead of redirecting it, he started to rewrite the deleted article. He cut and pasted the previous VfD delete notice onto the page, in order to try to force a third vote. He moved Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Jewish ethnocentrism, and used that page for his fake vote. When I pasted in the previous VfD discussion, he reverted. When you protected the blank page, he unprotected it. He has also deleted comments of mine about this issue from Talk pages, blaming editing glitches. If any ordinary editor had done all this, they'd been blocked for 24 hours at least. And so I feel very discouraged that, just because someone is an admin, others admins won't act against them; and I have almost no interest in being part of Wikipedia now because of it, though I hope my mood will change. Best, SlimVirgin 00:19, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC)

Article move?[edit]

Curps, I am trying to understand why you moved an article to my sandbox -- its not a problem, but I didn't write it, so I don't understand why you think it is mine... --Goodoldpolonius2 03:20, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)


I refer to the article Governor-General of Australia. User Dlatimer has made reverts as follows:

Paragraph 2:

  • 10:38, 14 Feb 2005
  • 10:59, 14 Feb 2005
  • 14:09, 14 Feb 2005

Paragraph 4:

  • 10:38, 14 Feb 2005
  • 10:59, 14 Feb 2005
  • 14:07, 14 Feb 2005

Paragraph 5:

  • 10:38, 14 Feb 2005
  • 10:59, 14 Feb 2005
  • 14:07, 14 Feb 2005

In each case he reverted my edits of these three paragraphs of 07:37-45, 14 Feb 2005, where I corrected earlier errors.

I pointed out the reasons for my changes on the discussion page, as part of an ongoing discussion about the literal text of the Constitution.

Please advise and act if necessary. Skyring 04:48, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Sorry i took things too literately - one of the problems of having an autistic spectrum disorder PMA 06:44, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Sorry I'm not sure what you're referring to here. The message I posted at your talk page was actually in reply to what Skyring posted there; I also replied to his talk page. -- Curps 06:47, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Bizarre articles[edit]

I guess that "dirty pirates" and such is the price we pay for open content. It's never boring on the Wikipedia! - Lucky 6.9 18:06, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)


Nice work on Template:Article - shame we can't have a talk link on there but it looks good after your edits. violet/riga (t) 20:17, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I thought you were upset i protected the page. My bad. PMA 22:16, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

OK, I'll shift it...[edit]

... mind if I have a little fun? Just for an hour, then I'll shift it to a subpage. - Ta bu shi da yu 09:11, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Ya, I know :-) Only an hour or so, I promise :) Ta bu shi da yu 09:15, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

FuturologyFuture studies[edit]

Thanks for the help Curps. It seems thought that Future studies still needs to be deleted before Futurology, which I mistakenly moved to Future Studies, can be moved to that location.--Nectarflowed 10:27, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I think it's all done now. In general if there is a problem doing a move, you can post to Wikipedia:Requested moves. It's better to do that than to put a {{delete}} notice on the page. -- Curps 10:49, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks again. --Nectarflowed 10:52, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Jewish ethnocentrism logs[edit]

It may interest you to view this. This is a compiled log from the history, logs, and everything. Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Jewish_ethnocentrism/Logs -- AllyUnion (talk) 16:04, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thank you! - Stephane[edit]

Thanks for your revising. Welcome to discuss the cities in China.

Could you tell something about you?

Re:No personal attacks[edit]

Regarding the "No personal attacks" link that you posted on my discussion page, what can I say? Please feel free to visit Jiang's talk page. He deemed it fit to devote an entire section to me, full of venomous attacks against me. Sorry but my talk page can't compete with that. -Heimdal 09:52, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I don't say that I've read Jiang's section concerning me thoroughly, since usually I can't stand reading such things. I just noticed, for instance, the name of a user who is letting out his anger about me, because I removed images of Nazi camp mass graves he insisted on adding to the "Germany" article. I had a hard time explaining this is an online encyclopedia and not a place to take revenge because this user apparently lost his family in the Holocaust. It makes me somehow want to slam pictures from Abu Ghraib prison on the "United States" article, although I'm sure they would be removed immediately. So this is the way one starts to make foes here. -Heimdal 10:29, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)


Hi. You have also been blocked for a 3RR on Quebec sovereignty movement. Details at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR -- Chris 73 Talk 04:11, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC) thanks for the vote on Talk:Gdansk/Vote. I do appreciate that. No hard feelings about the block, I hope. Contact me by email if necessary. Thanks -- Chris 73 Talk 04:21, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
You have misinterpreted the three-revert rule. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR -- Curps 04:59, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)