Talk:John Stith Pemberton

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 14 August 2020 and 4 December 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Kamila.tavarez. Peer reviewers: NRC2020UPRC, Alanis Rubi Rosario.

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Thingy majiger[edit]

the page was named under the header 'Dr. Joseph Graham Pemberton' which i just changed to Dr. John Pemberton- ehich corresponds to the information given in the article. [user- Priya Chandran, 16:43, 20 December 2005]

I've just removed some information on Dr. John Stith Pemberton that was the same as that on this webpage. If the contributor who added it had the relevant rights to use this material, please reply below. I have also removed some Stith genealogical information, because although I find that sort of thing interesting, it related to the 17th and 18th centuries, and the connection to Mr. Pemberton wasn't made at all clear. And it wasn't written in proper prose. However, if I'm interpreting it correctly, it seems that the poster was hinting at a descent from William Randolph and Mary Isham, which would make Mr. Pemberton a relative of Thomas Jefferson. This connection would be nice if real, and might be worth mentioning in the article. Maybe. -- Oliver P. 17:15 25 Jul 2003 (UTC)


John Pemberton had died in 1888.. He died in the year 1886.. You should change that.


Also the in the category box it has him in the 1791 births category, but the article says his birth took place in 1831. I can do research to fix this problem. -- Frenchgeek 04:19, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)

  • His mother was born in 1791, not him, so I'm going to change the category listing on this one. --Frenchgeek 04:26, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)

huh?[edit]

he was a folk singer? that seems too random

someone take out 'folk singer'

And someone added "Jewish" too, but unsourced. I removed it. Bruxism (talk) 03:16, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pemberton's addiction[edit]

How reliable is this information? It's sourced to Dominic Streatfeild's Cocaine: An Unauthorised Biography, but how reliable is that book? It has no footnotes, and on the very page containing this information it also claims that Pemberton sold the business to Candler in 1891, which is impossible since he was already three years in the grave! It seems to me that a mistake like that casts doubt on Streatfeild's research (if any), and none of his story about Pemberton should be usable. -- Zsero (talk) 00:10, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cause of death?[edit]

Does anyone know how Pemberton died? He would have been 57 at the time of death which is too young to die of old age. 98.226.68.29 (talk) 19:32, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I always figured he died of an overdosis morphine. But searching the internet I found no such indication. NNDB.com states cancer as his cause of death. However the type is unspecified, so I have my doubts whether the doctor did a proper autopsy. --Robinandroid (talk) 20:25, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How did he died 71.213.136.176 (talk) 22:26, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NOT THE NEPHEW OF JOHN CLIFFORD PEMBERTON, CIVIL WAR CONFEDERATE GENERAL[edit]

John S. Pemberton's father was James C. Pemberton, who was born about 1803-1806 in either North Carolina or South Carolina, according to the 1850 and 1860 census records. General John Clifford Pemberton's father and mother were not married until 1812 in Pennsylvania, according to Colonial and Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania (published 1978 by the Genealogical Publishing Company). Therefore, it is very unlikely that James C. Pemberton is a brother of General John Clifford Pemberton. James was born before the marriage and in a different state entirely. A tree someone put on a Rootsweb website with no sources cited is NOT a valid source for the family connections. Just because John S Pemberton is of the right age to be the nephew of John C. Pemberton, and they both fought on the Confederate side, and they both have the same last name, and they are both famous, does NOT make them related. Jtrahan2003 (talk) 02:49, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, my claim that he is the general's nephew is casual. If somebody knows better, they should correct my possible mistake. I am adding a "citation needed". In case it is found that he is not the general's nephew, the article should have a note to the effect that he is often mistaken for the general's nephew.CountMacula (talk) 01:25, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The article currently reflects Brownsguides for Georgia. When the authors of that biography change their story, per argument above, then correction will be forced.Rgdboer (talk) 21:57, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

First sold in what form?[edit]

You say Coca-Cola was first bottled in 1894. In what form, or in what sort of container, was it distributed before that? 86.181.87.252 (talk) 15:13, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Founder, not inventor, and here's why[edit]

In order to be an inventor, you have to create a generic type of product not previously in existence. Creating a brand name, as opposed to a generic type of product, makes you a founder and not an inventor.

Soda pop does in fact predate the 1886 founding of Coca-Cola. Quod Erat Demonstrandum. The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 05:57, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 June 2018[edit]

This is not correct----- <ref> During his early life he was selling lime juice for living, Mr. [[Rahul Gandhi]] confirms that. King, Monroe M. "John Stith Pemberton (1831-1888)." ''New Georgia Encyclopedia''. 13 June 2017. Web. 11 September 2017.</ref>


This is not correct Mango458 (talk) 07:15, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - by another - Arjayay (talk) 11:03, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 June 2018[edit]

change Knoxville, Georgia to Jumritalayya, India change Inventor of Coca-Cola to Shikanji Desaiardeshir (talk) 09:14, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 11:04, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WOW[edit]

man. He looks like a former president. But he's actually a owner of coke 76.25.196.38 (talk) 03:19, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Notice: Updated John Pemberton ref; url thereof has changed (but only slightly)[edit]

In fixing the following reference, I discovered that the source cited has a slightly different url:

<ref name="MIT">{{Cite web |title=John Pemberton |url=https://lemelson.mit.edu/resources/john-pemberton |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20231005020749/https://lemelson.mit.edu/resources/john-pemberton |archive-date=October 5, 2023 |access-date=December 20, 2018 |website=[[Lemelson–MIT Prize|Lemelson-MIT Program]] |language=en-US}}</ref>

The url in the reference was changed from

https://lemelson.mit.edu/resources/john-s-pemberton

to

https://lemelson.mit.edu/resources/john-pemberton

The john-s-pemberton page has been archived on the wayback machine 9 times starting April 29, 2016 and (as of this date) ending January 24, 2023 The last intact page was captured on August 10, 2020. The captures in 2021 and thereafter are Page not found.

The john-pemberton page has been archived on the wayback machine 10 times beginning January 26, 2021 and (as of this date) ending October 5, 2023. I haven't checked all of these pages, but the first one, Jan 26, 2021 is complete

I'm not sure where, if anywhere, I should note this change so I have written this brief notice. --CmdrDan (talk) 19:41, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]