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Good articleKir'Shara has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Good topic starKir'Shara is part of the Star Trek: Enterprise (season 4) series, a good topic. This is identified as among the best series of articles produced by the Wikipedia community. If you can update or improve it, please do so.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
January 21, 2014Good article nomineeListed
May 25, 2016Good topic candidatePromoted
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on January 29, 2014.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that elements in the Star Trek: Enterprise episode "Kir'Shara" have been compared to the Nag Hammadi library and Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code?
Current status: Good article


GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Kir'Shara/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Seabuckthorn (talk · contribs) 09:44, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator: Miyagawa (talk)

Hi! I'll be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have my full review up shortly. --Seabuckthorn  09:44, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Miyagawa (talk) 11:13, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]


1: Well-written

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      • Major Point 1: Plot "In this episode, Enterprise is caught in a crossfire … to the rest of the Vulcan High Council." (summarised well in the lead)
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      • Major Point 3: Themes ""Kir'Shara" and the Vulcan arc showed themes … compared to the Nag Hammadi library." (summarised well in the lead)
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      • Major Point 3: Themes ""Kir'Shara" and the Vulcan arc showed themes … compared to the Nag Hammadi library." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body)
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        • "Kir'Shara" is the tenth episode of the fourth season of the American science fiction television series Star Trek: Enterprise, and originally aired on December 3, 2004.
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        • The part "and originally aired on December 3, 2004" can be moved somewhere down the lead.
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      • Use a different heading for section Reception and home media release. There is only a short paragraph dealing with home media release – "The first home media release … is due on April 1, 2014.". I recommend Reception.
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Cross-checked with other FA & FL: Tasha Yar, List of Star Trek: The Next Generation cast members‎ & List of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine cast members

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As per the above checklist, the issues identified are:

  • Fix first sentence of the lead.
  • Fix heading for the section Reception and home media release.
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This article is a very promising GA nominee. I’m glad to see your work here. I’m putting the article on hold. All the best, --Seabuckthorn  20:07, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review, I've made those couple of edits as suggested. Miyagawa (talk) 21:40, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK, everything looks good now. Passing the article to GA status. --Seabuckthorn  03:04, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Details please[edit]

Congratulations on this article's promotion to GA! As a WP editor who hasn't watched much Star Trek, though, may I make one suggestion? At present it's unclear what the Kir'Shara is; as far as I can tell, all that's said about it here is that "contains the original word of Surak." Are we talking about some kind of book, or recording, or inscription, or box, or what? I'd imagine that a short definition or description would be appropriate for the plot summary (and probably the lead as well), since the episode is named after this artifact.--Lemuellio (talk) 19:09, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is such a simple thing to explain the meaning of an episode title but it is so obvious people often forget to include it. That got me thinking too that the appearance of the object should be described, so only 7 years later your request had been addressed. Since the Plot section must be kept short I went ahead and added a footnote describing the relic as a tetrahedron or triangular pyramid.[1] A text description is necessary but it would be better if the article included both text and an image. I added a request to the page heading that an image be added to the article, and I think it would be a good idea if it was an image of the Kir'Shara, ideally a split image showing both the inactive relic and the version glowing and projecting text, would best enhance reader understanding of the episode.
If we had more information perhaps the prop could also be described in the Production section.[2](Archive) -- 109.79.169.104 (talk) 23:24, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The image of Archer activating the Kir'Shara[3][4][5] might be a good choice to represent the episode but I'd be hesitant to use an image from near the end of the episode. -- 109.79.78.84 (talk) 19:57, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Iraq war and WMD[edit]

Part of the plot sounds like the allegations of wmd in Iraq (which had started a year before airing), and I'm surprised that this hasn't been taken up by any sources at that time. --Tilman (talk) 09:03, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]