Talk:Jane's Addiction

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Core/Other Members[edit]

Not sure I agree with the definition of "Core" and "Other" members of the bans in respect of the bass players - yes, Chaney was the most recent, but Avery was the player during the period they were mostly active, and plays on all but the last record. Also considered core creative part of the songwriting on all their iconic output.

Not sure Chaney was ever a full-blown partner, he may have been a hired-hand?

Bit like Lennon being "Other" to the Beatles 'cos he wasn't present for the "Anthology" project??!?

chaney wrote and recorded with them and was credited as part of the band in the credits to strays.

he also played in the follow up projects to this band with dave and eric. he was full blown.

Maybe wait and see who plays bass on the forthcoming reunion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.50.186.227 (talk) 10:25, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps something should be mentioned about martyn lenoble feeling very hard done by and the band owing him money following his departure in 2002? he says it himself in the 'Whores' biography.

What happened to all of the Casey Niccoli references? She not only directed and edited the early Jane's Addiction videos, but did the artwork for the albums, and co-wrote, co-directed and edited Gift. I think she deserves mention for these things.

Eric Avery's return[edit]

Hello - me again - now I'm really confused - the reference link doesn't mention the detail lineup for the awards show in April - where has the info that Avery will be playing come from? Navarro's blog (www.6767.com) names the other three, implying that, so far at least, Avery isn;t confirmed as on board for this show???

I note that Avery is now listed as a "core" member though LOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.50.186.227 (talk) 12:48, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have now added a citation that details Avery's return to the band. Tarc (talk) 12:58, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just came across it on Reuters and was coming back to correct myself - see you beat me to it! Nice one —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.50.186.227 (talk) 13:01, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Why was the information on the October and November shows removed?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.171.177.64 (talk) 00:18, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Genre sources[edit]

Can anyone cite a reiable source on the band's genres, especially the "alternative metal" tag, which I dispute. The band just doesn't really fit. A published source (Essi Berelian's "Rough Guide to Heavy Metal") calls them "alternative rock" and "art-rock", explicitly stating they are the very definition of those genres. It never mentions alternative metal though. Prophaniti (talk) 00:02, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They are called alternative metal on AllMusicGuide... 

http://www.allmusicguide.com/cg/amg.dll

VolvonDoom (talk) 08:44, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]


why does allmusicguide get to decide what genre this band is. let's send them a message on their site and ask or something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.191.120.158 (talk) 12:07, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]


In the section on Deconstruction, I don't know what a " one-off album" is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.138.210.150 (talk) 19:33, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]


why does allmusicguide get to decide what genre this band is. I saw Nine Inch Nails labeled with the "Teen Pop" (WTF-ingF) category and Wham! with the "Punk/New Wave" category on that website, so for the record, that's a hell of a good question. JA is not remotely metal to me, but I guess there isn't much I can do when a site that labels NIN as Teen Pop is used as a reliable Wikipedia source. 74.69.64.52 (talk) 10:11, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Describing Wham! as punk/new wave is a bit of a stretch, alright. Describing Nine Inch Nails as teen pop seems pretty spot on to me. They're obviously aimed at young teens. 193.178.95.4 (talk) 10:33, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Funk metal[edit]

I think this is band's style is largely funk metal, and thus it should be added. Two that come to mind are "Been Caught Stealing" and "Suffer Some" but that's beside the point. Anyone agree with me that it should be added?

I think the genre section should say: Alternative rock
Alternative metal
Funk metal
because they aren't really a "hard rock" band. Tezkag72 22:50, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

you may think that, but that doesn't make it so. no way are jane's addiction a funk rock band.

psychedelic alternative rock/alternative hard rock with punk influences. sometimes its hard to nail genres done. they may not fit the regular hard rock genre's image, but they do rock very hard indeed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.191.120.158 (talk) 12:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Name origin[edit]

Does anyone have a reference for the origin of the band's name? Bongomatic 02:23, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Genres[edit]

Shouldn't the genre list also include alternative metal? They were one of the pioneers, after all. --LordNecronus (talk) 14:58, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I personally don't see Jane's Addiction as a metal band, I think they are alternative period and shouldn't be listed as a metal band. But if you have a source to back up them being a metal band I guess that's fine because Source>opinion. I still don't get why we can't GNR a metal when they are, yet we can call Jane's Addiction an alt band one.Rockgenre (talk)Rockgenre 19:15, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
They're mentioned several times as an alternative metal band on the alternative metal article. --86.0.183.95 (talk) 12:00, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Here's what Allmusic lists Jane's Addiction under styles:
-Alternative Pop/ Rock
-Alternative Metal
-College Rock
-Dance-Rock
And here's what Rolling Stone says on their artist page on their site, "Jane's Addiction blended elements of art rock, punk, metal, funk and glamour into an ambitious musical". VH1 mentioned them Mountain Song on their "100 greatest hard rock songs" list where they refered to them as something like "in the '80s LA was mainly known for metal, but it also gave us one of the alt rock greats in Jane's Addiction" or something like that.
Jane's genre is debatable, but we do know for a fact that they mixed a lot of styles into their music. I personally just don't see anything metal about them, but again "source>opinion". Though it is already mentioned the article that they had some influences from gothic rock and metal and I think that's good enough.Rockgenre (talk)Rockgenre 00:25, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with "Rockgenre". I don't see anything metal about Jane's Addiction. They're a little on the heavier side of Alternative Rock and maybe drew some influences from an old metal band or two (although more from psychedelia in my view), but I don't see that as incentive for actually labeling them metal. To me they represent simple Alternative Rock in it's formative years (which is a fusion of rock sounds anyway). Then again, neither do I see anything really metal about Red Hot Chili Peppers and they also get the tag quite often. Go figure. I guess individual opinions don't count though. 74.69.64.52 (talk) 10:05, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jane's Addiction is considered alternative metal by reliable sources that discuss that genre. Mind you, the core of the band's sound is essentially 70's metal meets 80's goth. WesleyDodds (talk) 11:24, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eric's not writing with JA (2010)[edit]

I can't add this reference because the article is semi-protected... but here's his twit about not writing with Jane's... in case someone can add it: http://twitter.com/ericavery/statuses/8018380744

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.246.84.43 (talk) 22:14, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Duff McKagan as Avery replacement?[edit]

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=135547

Guns N' Roses guitarist Slash, who's Duff's friend and bandmate, states "I think Duff is doing something with Jane's Addiction". There have been rumors for a while that Duff was going to be replacing Eric, and Slash is pretty close with Duff, so I doubt he learned of this from rumors on the internet as opposed to Duff himself. I'm not familiar with Wiki's policies in this type of situation, but if it's worth noting (even as a rumor on the main page), then I'm just letting you all know. If it's not worth noting until confirmed, I completely understand. This isn't an official confirmation by any means, just seems pretty credible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.49.152.111 (talk) 23:35, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It has been confirmed that Duff is writing and performing with Jane's on their new album, however Ive yet to come across anything that confirms that he actually has replaced Avery full time, only titles stating "Duff has joined Jane's" but just saying hes writing with them in the articles. While Duff joining Jane's would be awesome (im a huge fan of both), nothing has been confirmed by either Duff or Jane's. It could happen, but with Duff also pushing forward and writing a new album for Loaded as well, it doesnt seem likely at this moment. HrZ (talk) 13:33, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, McKagan joined for about 6 months, helped with the new album & some live shows, then left [1]. He was introduced as the new bassist earlier this year in the band's Guitar Center Sessions (I just saw the program on DirecTV's 101 Network, including a great acoustic version of 'Jane Says' and a few other songs.) .. Apparently they taped in May and the show was first broadcast in Sept. [2] -PrBeacon (talk) 20:43, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Had A Dad[edit]

This was a very popular song on the album that at least deserves a stub of it's own article. I've talked to people who barely know Jane's Addiction that know this song, but not "Mountain Song". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrmoustache14 (talk • contribs) 16:43, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Citation Error?[edit]

The article uses citation 53 as reference for some illness of Farrell. But the cited article does not reveal any information on an illness? (have no account on English WP and posting this anonymously. Hope, it's OK. Please feel free to delete this.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.5.170.96 (talk) 22:08, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Jane Bainter[edit]

I'm not saying there should be a page for Jane Bainter, the band's namesake, but there should be some sort of a mention that she didn't get hardly if any money from JA or Warner Bros. I read it in a interview she did back in 2003. If you search Jane Bainter on Google it'll come up. --Matt723star (talk) 22:49, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

first link sketchy & dead (cites [1] & [38?])[edit]

The article is mostly great but check out the very first cite- it's dead now, only available latest screenshot is 2010 available on "archive.is", via googling "(Avery’s) departure should not come as a shock to fans". That old 'Stereokill' was a sketchy source anyway by the standards I am familiar with now (cite 38 or somehere it appears again). So this otherwise fine article needs proper source checking. Which is why I'm putting it here on the talk page because I'm not sure if that's a wikiproject or how that works, and I suspect more than just this one sketchy dead link right off the top. Phaedrx (talk) 17:24, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

hunch correct, see very last cite re: Dave Sitek (TVOTR) the "Spinner" text once again is googlable but the link redirects to some aol.radio homepage I am not entirely familiar with, nor the process to repair, remove, update these links. Not saying the credit is incorrect as above but that the foundation is giving way in this otherwise solid article. Phaedrx (talk) 17:24, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Way to improve?[edit]

Just throwing this out there, but shouldn't there be a mention of the band's two biggest hits, "Jane Says" and "Been Caught Stealing", somewhere in the introductory paragraphs? Maybe add a clause to the sentence that reads "The band's first two studio albums, Nothing's Shocking (1988) and Ritual de lo habitual (1990), which included the hit songs "Jane Says" and "Been Caught Stealing", respectively, were released to widespread critical acclaim, and an increasing cult fanbase. "

As it reads now, the average person who checks out this article would not know it's the same band that produced those radio staples. And that's sort of the point of an encylopedia, isn't it?

Third degree 14 (talk) 02:10, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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