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April 23

broken links

List of spacecraft in the Culture series

is deleted, breaking links here:

Wikitardotron (talk) 02:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

The whole page was moved from Wikipedia to the following wiki, and it has undergone updates since the move:

https://theculture.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_spacecraft

So you should ideally adjust links to point to the new home above.

As for links breaking, and the sheer number of places that had that as a hardcoded link to Wikipedia... that's a shame. I advise cursing link rot and then trying to just fix all of them if you care enough, because the information has not been deleted, merely moved. Fluoborate (talk) 04:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Fluoborate has kindly given you a solution. But please note that this question has nothing to do with Wikipedia, except to note that somebody was linking to a Wikipedia article which has since been deleted. What use some other website makes of Wikipedia is not Wikipedia's responsibility ColinFine (talk) 10:15, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Why doesn't my ref/note work as a clickable link?

I just added "Note 1" to this page:

Asenapine

Following the "ref"/"note" markup example as closely as I could, and it is only a clickable link in one direction, in both Safari and Chrome. Clicking "Note 1" where it occurs in the body (Adverse Events) does not work, although it appears blue. Clicking the "1" in the notes section at the bottom does indeed work, it provides a backlink to the body.

What have I done wrong? Very similar markup works on another page I recently annotated.

Thank you, Fluoborate (talk) 04:39, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

 Fixed I've sorted it out for you. The easiest way to deal with footnotes is to use the {{efn}} mechanism. You place the whole footnoted (including references) inline:"* Dyspepsia, stomach discomfort, and/or vomiting{{efn|The Phase III trials ... subjects.<ref name=DM />}}" then at the bottom in the "Notes" section add {{notelist}}. The system then does all the hard work of linking for you. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 09:33, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Problem going live

Hey guys,

i created my first page like 5 months ago and it still isn't live! can you guide me so my page can go live? Mistakefinder77 (talk) 08:39, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Presumably you mean the sandbox material discussed on your own User talk page (here) by DoubleGrazing? If not, what page/Draft do you mean? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 151.227.134.31 (talk) 10:04, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Publishing of new article

I Need help in publishing my new article titled Karthikeya. Can anyone help me with the submitting for review Geoviswakarma (talk) 09:03, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

@Geoviswakarma Assuming you have an on-WP draft somewhere, put this at the top of it: {{subst:submit}}

Hope this helps. If you haven't written the article yet, start with WP:YFA. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:14, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Archiving

Hi, the archiving on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Edit requests was originally broken due to an erroneous configuration that caused the bot to start archiving at archive 6. I've reset the counter back to 1 and moved the archive, but now Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Edit requests/Archive 6 is a redirect to the first archive from the page move. Will this cause trouble when the number of archives eventually reaches 6, or will the bot just overwrite the redirect? The redirect isn't actually necessary, since no pages link to the archive; see: Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Edit_requests/Archive_6. Liu1126 (talk) 11:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

@Liu1126:, I've deleted the redirect. The bot will be able to recreat it when the time comes. Mjroots (talk) 13:06, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Liu1126 (talk) 13:53, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Assistance Needed: Wikipedia Page Update Query

Dear Wikipedia Help Desk,

My name is Nina, and I'm reaching out for guidance regarding updating the Wikipedia page for Envac. I work as a digital marketer at Envac, and I recently attempted to update the page using information from our company website. However, I received an email stating that all my changes were removed due to copyright concerns.

Could you please advise me on the correct procedure for updating the page? Do I need to provide any documentation as an Envac employee to verify the information? Your assistance in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your help.

Best regards, Nina (NINASALEHI2024) NINASALEHI2024 (talk) 12:08, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

The first problem here is WP:BOSS, as you should not edit an article if you are involved with it in some way. The other problem is that the edits at Envac Automated Waste Collection System were deleted because they appear to have copypasted copyrighted material into the article, which is also one of the things not to do in a Wikipedia article.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 12:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

@NINASALEHI2024: In addition, you must disclose your paid relationship with Envac as described in the aforementioned link. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:30, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi, thank you so much for your response, so what should I do now whit this issu?I am an employee of Envac, and what should I do to access the edit? NINASALEHI2024 (talk) 13:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

@NINASALEHI2024, you need to declare per the instructions at WP:PAID. Then, if you wish to create an article, you need to submit a draft through Articles for Creation. Instructions are at Help:YFA. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 13:40, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you sincerely for your guidance. Should any questions arise as I proceed, I'll reach out to you. Your ongoing support is greatly appreciated. NINASALEHI2024 (talk) 13:42, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

The other thing to realise, Nina, is that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources.

If the material you added was from the company's website, it is likely that very little of it would be appropriate for a Wikipedia article even without the question of copyright. ColinFine (talk) 15:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

@NINASALEHI2024: You may find our FAQ for article subjects useful. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:39, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Envac Automated Waste Collection System (now a rediect)

@Spiderone

Made required changes and submitted the article month ago. Still it showing waiting for review, I need update Bvedavyas2024 (talk) 12:43, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

As it says at the top of your draft, @Bvedavyas2024, Review waiting, please be patient. Reviewers are volunteers and they have a lot of submissions to work through. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 13:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Also, if you have some kind of personal or professional connection to this person, please read and follow WP:COI. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 13:30, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Your draft Draft:Buragadda Vedavyas will be declined again as there are whole sections that are completely unreferenced. Everything in the article must be supported by reliable sources. Shantavira|^{feed me} 13:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Please guide me where i am stuck in article or if possible live help needed Bvedavyas2024 (talk) 13:43, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

@Bvedavyas2024, the section Early life and education has no references - where did you get this information? Two of the sections under Political Career have no references, and many parts of the other sections have no references attached. Many of the items in Political Positions Held are missing references. And language such as this is inappropriate for an encyclopedia: Renowned for his transformative leadership in Krishna District, Vedavyas unwavering commitment to his constituents and notable achievements define him as a true statesman and inspirational figure. He is fondly known as Ajathashatru of Andhra Politics.

Did you take all of the photographs used in the article?

You're welcome to try WP:IRC or WP:DISCORD if you want to ask for real-time help. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 14:24, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Dan Schneider, who is Jewish

I googled “Sam and Cat” a Nickelodeon kids show, and in the Wikipedia entry on the initial google search it includes the reference to the producer Dan Schneider “who is Jewish”. When I went to the Wikipedia page itself it is not on there. 2600:1700:6222:AF90:1846:9B4C:E595:8DD9 (talk) 14:38, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Google often mistakenly says (or implies) that things exist on Wikipedia which don't actually appear in the articles. There's nothing to be done about it on this end; you'll need to take it up with Google. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 14:46, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

That can happen if the article is edited after Google takes its snippet. “who is Jewish” was added at 03:47, 21 April 2024 and then reverted at 04:39, 21 April 2024. TSventon (talk) 14:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It's not Google's fault. It was in the article for 52 minutes Sunday.[1] Googlebot apparently visited the page there and cached the content. It will disappear from Google results next time their bot visits. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:52, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

I was in a "no recording" session at Wikiconference North America in 2019 where we got to discuss such matters directly with people from Google, and I mentioned this issue, in the context of material that is removed or even revision deleted or supressed, yet is preserved by their scraper bots. They seemed to understand the concern but I didn't get the impression they had an easy answer. I can see how their desire to keep their snippets as up-to-date as possible is somewhat at odds with Wikipedia's desire to keep vandalism from being spread outside of WP. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 18:15, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Google has a system where you can be registered as owner of a website (after providing evidence) and submit a limited number of pages for fast indexing or reindexing. I have not heard of this system being used by Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:23, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

because it doesn't really scale well to our operation :) —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 20:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

I cannot remove a hidden category

Hello! I decided to start de-orphaning some articles, but after I did that process, I cannot find the category of orphaned article to remove when I select edit source. I can see it when normally reading the article, but not when editing. Here is the article: Abdul Aziz bin Laboun PolarClimates (talk) 16:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Sometimes, pages are not placed in categories manually by Wikipedia editors, but by means of templates, which can be used to place identical information (including category membership information) on many different pages at once. When the information on such a template is edited, the pages containing that template are updated, but not necessarily updated immediately. This means that pages might not always appear in the most current categories. Theroadislong (talk) 16:43, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

PolarClimates in this case you need to remove the orphan template {{Orphan|date=June 2021}}. See Wikipedia:Orphan. TSventon (talk) 18:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! I did not know that templates created categories PolarClimates (talk) 14:25, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

See Template:Disambiguation#Parameters. It lists lots and lots of possible categories, geo, given name, surname, ship, school, etc. Clarityfiend (talk) 12:50, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Wikilink to wikipedia search string

How do I format a wikilink to a wikipedia search string, such as https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?fulltext=1&search=insource%3A%22dateglows.com%22&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1? I can do it as an external url, but am looking for the wikilink-formatted equivalent. (This is for use in user-space.) Schazjmd (talk) 17:06, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Have a look in Help:Link#Links containing ampersands. ColinFine (talk) 17:54, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, @ColinFine, but I didn't express my question clearly. I can create a wikilink to Special:Search. What I'm wondering is if there is a way to include a specific search string in a Special:Search wikilink. (The ampersands in the url are just browser artifacts.) Schazjmd (talk) 18:00, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

You can put your search part after a backslash after the name Special:Search.

In your case the search part is insource:"dateglows.com" so you should use Special:Search/insource:"dateglows.com" EternalNub (talk) 18:03, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

That is what I couldn't figure out, thanks @EternalNub! Schazjmd (talk) 18:48, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

The Band Madman Mundt

I would like to the band Madman Mundt to Wikipedia. How is this done? Attached is an artical about the band.

https://www.clevescene.com/music/madman-mundt-1493473

Thank you. Benedictjohn92 (talk) 17:58, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Well, I'd start by reading Help:Your first article. Not every band is going to be notable anough to warrant an article, but if you have multiple examples of significant coverage from reliable sources it may be possible. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 18:03, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

@Benedictjohn92: for our notability (read: "inclusion") criteria for musical acts, see WP:BAND. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:07, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Updating Information

Hello.

My name is Hugo Balta.

I work in the Publlic Information Office of the Clerk of the Circuit Court of Cook County. We would like to update this page: Iris Martinez

How do I go about doing that?

Hugo 162.217.186.240 (talk) 18:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

It seems like this page is about a topic you have a conflict in interest in (Your employer) so you will need to disclose it. EternalNub (talk) 19:22, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

You can read the conflict of interest policy here. EternalNub (talk) 19:23, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

They disclosed it right here. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:42, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It sounds as if the following all apply to you: WP:BOSS, WP:PAID and WP:COI. Please read through them and make the necessary declarations. If they do apply to you, then you should not edit the page directly, but make a request on the talk page explaining what changes you want and reliable sources that support them. A final point, "Cook County" could be anywhere in the world, on first glance I'd assumed New Zealand or Australia; so please qualify it with (in this case) Illinois, USA. Regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 19:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Please post a request on the talk page of the article. Be sure to cite sources for any change or addition. OurFAQ for article subjects may be of interest. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:42, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Balancing completeness with rigor: adding to an author's works based on Google Books text matching

I found that a book, missing from the author's bibliography, is a reprint of an old work under a new title. My discovery relied using Google Books's "Search Inside" feature to compare excerpts. However, I haven't yet found sources that said that the new book is the old one.

Can I still add this info to the author's bibliography, or do I need to wait for a researcher or secondary source to say the same thing first? R333k0o (talk) 19:08, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

You're not supposed to add the info because it counts as original research, since you did the comparing yourself. So you should wait for a researcher or secondary source. See Wikipedia:No original research EternalNub (talk) 20:10, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification, @EternalNub. I was doubtful if the Google Books might have been analogous to just counting "1+1=2," but per @188.220.144.58's comment about the need for more extensive comparisons, I see why it's wise to wait. R333k0o (talk) 02:22, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @R333k0o,

I would start a section on the article's talk page, and ask others to search to see if they found any sources without doing original research. If you have waited over 2 days and no one has responded to the talk page, then go to the reference desk, and ask your question there. They are very reliable and usually respond quickly. If you don't want to wait, do both first. The people who respond to the talk page usually know more about the topic (but not always).

Best,

Avi

@Avishai11

Avishai11 (talk) 20:16, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, @Avishai11! I'll see how this goes. R333k0o (talk) 02:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Frequently, though not always, a book that has been republished in the same language under a different title has a note on the copyright page (nearly always on the reverse or 'verso' of the title page) stating that it was originally/previously published under a different title.

If the retitled edition contains such a statement, it should be acceptable as a 'reliable source', just as the book is considered a 'reliable source' for any plot or contents summary of it. In such a case, you could (in my opinion) therefore cite the retitled edition's copyright page as the source for the retitling. Since the 'verso' is often not included in the work's main (Arabic numerals) text pagination and not physically numbered in the 'prelims' (Roman numerals) pagination even if used, you might have to 'calculate' the verso's prelims page number (which ought to be even rather than odd, and is frequently iv, with i–ii being the half-title leaf and iii–iv being the title page and its verso) – I think this would be acceptable analysis rather than synthesis.

Note however that non-fiction works in particular may be expanded and republished under a new title: in such a case the book is effectively at minimum a 'new ("revised", "expanded", etc.) edition', or for more extensive expansions or reworkings a different work altogether, even if it contains some of the older text. You might need to conduct extensive text comparisons to find out if this is or is not the case. This is most easily done with actual printed copies of the volumes in question. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.2309.195} 188.220.144.58 (talk) 01:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, @188.220.144.58. The copyright page didn't contain the original title, so this may likely be a reworking. I'll follow @Avishai11's suggestion about starting conversations to see if anyone can verify that. R333k0o (talk) 02:27, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Another thing to note is that Wikipedia does not strive for completeness. If a book has not been the subject of indpendent discussion, does it even belong in the article? ColinFine (talk) 10:20, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

On completeness, R333k0o: The only reference for the article Gustavo Gabriel Levene is a review of one of this books; this is the source, it seems, for just one sentence within the article. The reader is given no reason to trust anything else that the article says. Referencing what the text says is, I suggest, more important than pointing out that two books with different titles share the same content (if they indeed do so). -- Hoary (talk) 12:47, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

How to change colors of template/infobox?

I've been trying to update the templates/infoboxes related to the Houston Texans to reflect a new color scheme, but I can't find any information related to changing the colors; additionally, some templates have extended protection. ExpergeTech (talk) 20:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

@ExpergeTech: I suggest that you ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Football League, where people with the relevant expertise can be found. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Translation of a sidebar template

I've noticed that some articles have a sidebar about a specific topics with links to articles related to it, like this one Pi template. I'd like to have the same sidebar in other languages, and I'd like to know if there's an easy or practical way to do it. I'm not really sure how to use these templates in general. Thanks in advance. HallyTall (talk) 21:46, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello. There is no general way to transfer content from one Wikipedia to another - it usually has to be done as a copy and paste (with suitable attribution, of course: see copying within Wikipedia).

This applies just as much to templates as any other kind of page. Furthermore, templates often depend on other templates, and sometimes on Lua modules, so you would need to make sure that the resources that the template depended on were transferred, and translated if necessary. ColinFine (talk) 22:33, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

HallyTall, what other languages are you interested in translating it to? Because Template:Pi box uses Template:Sidebar directly, and because {{Sidebar}} has equivalents in 130 languages, it might be possible to design a wrapper template in a foreign language that would interpret the English Pi template with no changes and render the correct output in the foreign Wikipedia, in the same way that the non-English citation templates like {{cite web/French}} and {{cite book/German}} can interpret a French or German citation here at English Wikipedia and display it correctly. Because most of the actual links are names of people, those would likely have the same name in foreign Wikipedias, in most cases, so probably would generate blue links if the article exists already. Alternatively, since there aren't that many Sidebar params involved, it might be easier just to find the corresponding param names, e.g., for Spanish it is at es:Plantilla:Navegación vertical, but it suffers from very poor documentation, so you would have to read the Template code to find out what the analogous parameters are called. The German one at de:Vorlage:Seitenleiste has no documentation at all. Mathglot (talk) 05:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

I've mostly thought about translating some templates to Spanish, but as you've said, the template for the sidebar is very poorly documented. Would you think it reasonable to grab the original template (say, the Template:Pi box) and simply replace the name of the parameters? Like changing heading1 to seccion1 and so on? HallyTall (talk) 17:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

@HallyTall: If it's difficult to see how es:Plantilla:Navegación vertical works then you can try looking at the existing uses at [2]. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:32, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

@HallyTall: yes, I think that's reasonable, if you can work out the correspondence of names despite the poor documentation. Ping me from there if you need anything. Mathglot (talk) 18:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Andrew Bloxam

Ref number 5 is all in red, please repair if you can, thanks 115.70.23.77 (talk) 23:57, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Can't. Template:Cite journal unsurprisingly requires specification of the title of the journal. This can't be done here, as whatever it is that's linked to, it's clearly neither a journal nor a journal article. Of course, Template:Cite journal can be changed to Template:Cite [something else]; but here, to what? What's linked to looks as if it was compiled by one Richard Middleton, who I suppose was/is a genealogy enthusiast. It's not clear to me that it was sub-edited or by some other criterion is a "reliable source". Further, what's it being cited for? Here's what: In 1866, his daughter Jane Dorothea Bloxam (died 1921) married Sir Henry Hanson Berney, 9th Bart. (died 1907). Sir Henry and Lady Berney's grandson was cricketer Cecil Middleton, son of Henry Middleton who, in April 1900, reportedly witnessed at Filey Brigg the drowning of his first cousin Margaret Middleton. Margaret's sister Gertrude and their cousin Henry Middleton were both students at Oxford University, Bloxham's alma mater. This in an article that purports to be about somebody who died in 1878. Why the stuff about his grandkids? (How does it add to our understanding of Andrew Bloxam?) -- Hoary (talk) 01:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

PS Template:Cite web would work, and if this isn't a reliable source then it is at least an interesting one, reporting on its own refreshingly unconventional and lively Annual General Meetings. But if these factors mitigate, they nevertheless fail to show me how the marriage of the subject's daughter (let alone how such matters as the reported witnessing of such-and-such by the subject's great-grandson) tells us anything about the subject. Would you care to explain, OP? -- Hoary (talk) 05:02, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

April 24

My Wiki page was deleted without reason

My Wiki page was on a fictional character. just as real as if someone did a page on a video game character. I sited where I got the information from and gave credit to the creator of the subject. Also the message I got was unclear with what was wrong with my Wiki page. -Bojankles

P.S. the wiki page was a draft that I tried to publish but it was denyed. If you want to see the draft than please go here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1agnnB7CKfTJbcbMIZuO1joC_c7LtTlpnaPbv19YYxP4/edit

. BOJANKLES (talk) 00:08, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

I looked at your deleted page. It was just some garbage you made up. This is an encyclopedia, not a place to just publish any thought that enters your head. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 00:13, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Well that's dumb BOJANKLES (talk) 05:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

There are tons of dumb thinks on Wikipedia BOJANKLES (talk) 05:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Mine isn't the only one BOJANKLES (talk) 05:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

And, I didn't make it up. Someone else made it up. Just like The legend of Zelda, Just like DND, just like pokemon. And there are wiki pages on lots of those. BOJANKLES (talk) 05:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Read Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Absolutely nothing in your draft provides the slightest evidence that it belongs on Wikipedia. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

You really are a grump BOJANKLES (talk) 05:05, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps first read Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors. -- Hoary (talk) 01:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for giving a nice reply, I really appreciate this even if it is still not quite what I wanted. BOJANKLES (talk) 05:04, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

BOJANKLES, you seem to have a misunderstanding about the purpose of Wikipedia. This is an encyclopedia consisting of articles about topics that reliable, independent sources have written about. We simply summarize those reliable sources. As for fictional characters, we have an article about Prince Hamlet because reliable sources independent of Shakespeare have been writing about the character for over 400 years. Similarly, Mickey Mouse has been a sensation for 95 years and reliable sources continue to write about him today. We do not host articles about newly created characters that have not yet been discussed extensively by reliable soures. Cullen328 (talk) 08:34, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Based on the link, Draft:The crazy frog seems to be about Crazy Frog or Axel F#Music video. TSventon (talk) 09:40, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

ok thank you for helping me understand BOJANKLES (talk) 21:22, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Image background not being displayed as transparent

The background of File:Cambrian Credit Union logo.webp appears to be transparent on the file page, but it is not being displayed as such at Cambrian Credit Union. Does anyone know why that would be? Graham (talk) 03:15, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

@Graham11: phab:T283646 says WebP images can lose transparency when they are resized. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:09, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Do you know what the best way of handling the issue in the meantime is? Is there an easy way to convert the file to another format, for instance? Graham (talk) 03:01, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Graham11: phab:T283646 says some display sizes may work but the only working size I have found is the original 630px, too much for an infobox. The only stable fix I know is to upload a new file in another format but I don't know a good conversion program. It may work to reupload the WebP file in the exact size displayed by the infobox but that size can vary between users so it's a poor solution. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:38, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

How to correct incorrect birthplace in artcile?

Hi,

In the article regarding me Jon Speelman my place of birth us incorrect - itt should be London. How do U remedy this please? 87.75.101.89 (talk) 10:37, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

I have removed the unsourced birthplace. TSventon (talk) 10:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

I notice that Jon Speelman is also listed in Cromer#Notable people. I will remove the entry.

This source gives his birthplace as Marylebone, London. Do we think it's Reliable for our purposes? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 188.220.144.58 (talk) 13:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

It appears reliable enough to use IMvHO. Mjroots (talk) 13:35, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Local news

Is there any WP guidance/essay/whatever that speaks of "local news" (as in regional newspapers etc) in the context of WP:N, WP:RS, WP:NPOV etc? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:41, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

WP:NORG does for organisations. TSventon (talk) 11:46, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

It does and that's interesting. Of course, what was on the top of my head was a person :P Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

There has been discussion at WT:BIO, e.g. here. TSventon (talk) 12:15, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

That's helpful, thanks. "Hard to define" pretty much sums it up. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:20, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

haierHaier 55″ LE55K6500UA smart TV

my haier tv has refused to sign in to netflix says tv needs updating i need help Nassirsharif (talk) 13:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

@Nassirsharif: This page is for people who need help with editing. Wikipedia. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Nassirsharif,

Wikipedia is not a instruction book, or a manual (see WP:NOTMANUAL). This is a Help Desk, for people who need help editing. In your case, you should probably contact Netflix Support (https://help.netflix.com/). Good luck!

Best regards,

Avi

@Avishai11

Avishai11 (talk) 16:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

No images

All images are not avaiable. 66.60.183.4 (talk) 17:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Can you be more specific? Cambalachero (talk) 17:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

If you can load Wikipedia articles but not the images in them, it may be a problem with your own internet connection. Try to check again from an area with a better wifi. Wifi connections may also get slow if there are way too many people trying to use it all at the same time. Cambalachero (talk) 17:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Editing our page

I'm looking for help on how to edit our Wikipedia page. We have a lot of incomplete information that I would like to complete Jhammers (talk) 19:27, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Jhammers First, please declare your affiliation with your organization; see conflict of interest and paid editing.

To contribute to the article(not just a "page") about your organization, please use its associated article talk page to make a formal edit request(click for instructions), detailing changes you feel are needed. 331dot (talk) 19:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

I'll also provide instructions on your user talk page. 331dot (talk) 19:40, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Is the article Accesswire even remotely near meeting WP:GNG though? Doesn't look like it.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 20:18, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Jhammers.

I'm afraid that the article Accesswire is nothing like a Wikipedia article, and I am dubious that it can be made into one. As 331dot says, you should not edit it, but instead should make edit requests. But in my view, the only thing worth doing to that article is to find some reliable sources where people who are wholly unconnected with Accesswire or Issuer Direct have chosen to write at some length about Accesswire.

The thing to understand is that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. Since all of the current sources cited are closely connected with Accesswire, the article does not at present appear to represent any independent evaluation of the company. Frankly, I am baffled as to why an editor as experienced as Rehman should have created such a feeble article at all. ColinFine (talk) 21:16, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Editing a page made by an institution to give a good image of themselves

Hi! I just started recently as a Wikipedia editor. My initial goal was just to help fix small grammar errors, but I have stumbled into a very particular article of an educational institution.

This article talks about elements of the university and its history without indicating any source for it. On the other hand, Im not sure if an statement such as "the university was formed after the dissolution of this two universities" requires a citation or not.

Moreover, the article uses very subjective words to describe the quality, instalations, etc. of the institution. In my humble opinion its clearly a promotional article. What is the procedure for this? Should I add the template of "Source required" after each of those type of sentences?

Thanks for the help. FranGallego33 (talk) 22:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

FranGallego33 it would be easier to advise if you linked the article. If the whole article is promotional and unsourced, you could use tags like Template:Promotional tone and Template:More citations needed. If only a few lines are problematic, you could use inline equivalents. TSventon (talk) 23:08, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

thanks for your reply! Yes, the page is already flagged as promotional tone so I guess there isn't much else to do. FranGallego33 (talk) 00:16, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@FranGallego33: There is! Please be bold, and make edits to improve the article. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:39, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

April 25

Inappropriate comments on a closed MFD

The comment made at the bottom of this page Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:The Monument Mythos by an IP editor seems very inappropriate to me (it's pretty much cheering on for someone to die by suicide), should it maybe be deleted from the edit history? ★Trekker (talk) 05:08, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@StarTrekker: Deleted, but it still needs an admin to perform a revdel. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:37, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done – robertsky (talk) 13:37, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing and Robertsky: Thank you both.★Trekker (talk) 18:21, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Questions about CSS

Hi, The page Wikipedia:Community portal/styles.css is displayed as code but when I create a new page named Wikipedia: ..../styles.css it is not displayed as code. Pereoptic ^Talk✉️   07:31, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Because only css pages in the template namespace get the right annotation for that. You can either create in template space and move to Wikipedia, OR ask someone to use Special:ChangeContentModel to modify the page to have the right annotation. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:43, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Pereoptic: Administrators have a link to change content model at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Communityl/styles.css&action=info#mw-pageinfo-content-model. Template editors can also do it at the English Wikipedia. I guess your real interest is the Persian Wikipedia where you are currently a template editor and created a styles.css page today. Template editors don't have the required editcontentmodel right there when I compare Special:ListGroupRights#templateeditor and fa:Special:ListGroupRights#templateeditor. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:22, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Yes, you guessed right! I saw an example of editcontentmodel in English Wikipedia, but I could not find it in Persian Wikipedia. Thank you very much for your complete explanation. best Pereoptic ^Talk✉️   15:13, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

What is ../wiki/.. as in Wikipedia URLs?

I am trying to understand more about Wikipedia's use of URLs. I can not understand the purpose of the /wiki/ part in a URL such as en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onion. Why not just have en.wikipedia.org/Onion. Any help on this would be very much appreciated.Gourdiehill (talk) 12:05, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Gourdiehill: It identifies the live wiki pages at a website with other types of pages. wikipedia.org is only used for wikis but we still have many other pages like https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Onion&action=history and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Onion&diff=prev&oldid=1216909020. One of the advantages is that our robots.txt at https://en.wikipedia.org/robots.txt can use the line Disallow: /w/ to tell search engines and other web crawlers to not visit those pages. The pages also have noindex to prevent indexing but a webcrawler would have to waste its own and our resources to discover noindex in the html. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:52, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter I understand some of your answer but not fully. Also there are a number of separate but related issues. It is a bit confusing that en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Onion and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onion both return the same web page. Wouldn't it be best if the page was accessed by en.wikipedia.org/Onion? I feel the URLs should be meaningful to users but if too much functionality gets attached to them they start to become meaningless (speaking for myself anyway). Gourdiehill (talk) 15:11, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Gourdiehill: It's practical for some applications that there are other ways to see pages and associated information. /w/index.php has a lot of parameters to see different things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onion is the canonical ("official") URL for the wiki page. The html for https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Onion says <link rel="canonical" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onion">. See canonical link element for the feature. Some wikis do have url's similar to en.wikipedia.org/Onion. It's easier to type and may look prettier to readers but as mentioned, it has advantages to have a clear distinction between wiki pages and other pages at the same website. MediaWiki controls it with mw:Manual:$wgArticlePath. It's set to '/wiki/$1' in all Wikimedia wikis with code in https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php and https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=CommonSettings.php. You are very unlikely to get this changed. If you didn't understand my webcrawler argument then let me elaborate a little. Google and many other websites have automated programs visiting millions (probably billions in total) of Wikipedia pages, typically so they can be included in search results for their users. Disallow: /w/ is a convenient way to tell them "Don't waste resources visiting page histories, diffs and other non-wiki pages". If they did then it would cost both them and us significant money, and they wouldn't visit as many pages we do want them to visit. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter:Thanks very much for that interesting explanation. I did not know about Canonical link element so have read about that. I became interested in this because I wanted to make use of Wiktionary as an API for a website I am making. I am not finding it very easy as I am running into CORS issues when I make requests. I am rather out of my depth and I have seen there are some issues with MediaWiki APIs but I thought it ought to be possible to make an Ajax request from my site to retrieve the English Wiktionary page for translations of a particular word. I am finding the API documentation very difficult! Gourdiehill (talk) 16:32, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Paula Vennels in search

Hi

I was looking for the Paula Vennells article earlier and as I typed here name incrementally into the search box, nothing seemed to match. I did eventually find the article and when I paste the full name into the search box, it did find it. Is this normal behaviour? Fob.schools (talk) 13:40, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Fob.schools: I got the same result. It's not normal unless the page was created in the last day and hasn't been indexed yet by the autocompletion feature, but the page is from 2019. I have moved it without leaving a redirect and then moved it back to register a new creation of the page name for indexing. It still gives the same result but that's expected right now. It will hopefully be indexed correctly within a day. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:21, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Fob.schools:, @PrimeHunter:, problem seems to be rather more widespread, see Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Search_suggestions_seem_to_be_missing_obvious_choices DuncanHill (talk) 15:10, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, the same thing has been happening to me with Duocylinder. TypoEater (talk) 18:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Replacing image from a page

Judge Russell asked me to help him replace the photo currently on his page with his formal headshot. John D. Russell (judge)

I created a wiki account and uploaded an image and tagged his page, but I don't know how to completely replace the current image and use the new one: File:JRussell.jpg

-- GableGotwalsLaw (talk) 14:33, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@GableGotwalsLaw, did you take that photograph? That is what "own work" means. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 15:06, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

If you have a personal relationship with Judge Russell, you should also review WP:COI to see whether it applies to you, and follow the instructions there. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 15:07, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

I hired the photographer that took the photo and have rights to the image. He used to work at GableGotwals before he was appointed as a judge and he asked me to help him get the existing photo on his wiki page replaced with his formal headshot I tried to upload. GableGotwalsLaw (talk) 15:10, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@GableGotwalsLaw, if your username represents a company rather than an individual, I recommend requesting a change of username - WP:CHU has instructions - lest your account be blocked on that basis. A username needs to represent you as an individual. "[Name] at GableGotwalsLaw" would be acceptable, for instance (no need to use your real name).

Photographers typically retain the rights to photos they are hired to take unless it is a formal work for hire. I don't know whether this applies in your case.

Someone may come along and add the image for you if they like; if they don't, I would recommend making a formal edit request on the talk page, Talk:John D. Russell (judge), since you seem to have a COI here. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 16:08, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Ah. Account got blocked while I was typing out all that. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 16:13, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

How to set the extent of the lead section? (Infobox shows up too soon on mobile view)

In the mobile view for Fermat number (with a narrow enough screen width so as to make the infobox inline), the infobox appears before the lead section actually ends. "A Fermat number [..] is a positive integer of the form {INFOBOX} ${\textstyle F_{n}=2^{2^{n}}+1}$". I figure this is because there's a line break between "form" and the formula. Is there a way to adjust this, such that the lead section is explicitly defined? Coolreader18 (talk) 15:15, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

was that what you were looking for? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:40, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Monospace template not working on one page only?

I was reading Canonical link element and I saw a paragraph (Imgur link) where the example URLs aren't being rendered in monospace font as they should; inspecting the element confirms that those two spans of text are supposed to be monospace. I copied the code over to my sandbox and it rendered as it should have. Is this a problem only on my end? I've tried refreshing the article page, purging it, and clearing my cache to see if that would fix it, but no dice. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:19, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Fixed for me by removing {{mono}} from inside a link earlier in the page.[3] I don't know exactly why if failed but the template uses Wikipedia:TemplateStyles which has complicated rules. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:47, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! That's a strange interaction. Looks like using the deprecated tt tags seems to circumvent this. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:52, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Where should I discuss a redirect?

We have a whole page entitled "Redirects for Discussion". However, I can't tell if that's merely a euphemism for "Redirects for possible Deletion." I do know that many redirects listed end up neither deleted nor merely retained, but transformed in some way.

I disagree with Natg 19 on whether to convert a redirect to...something intermediate between a disambig page and a stub. If my revision had stuck and the page were no longer a redirect, I would attempt to start a discussion at the corresponding talk page. But my revision was reverted, and the page is a redirect right now.

Consequently non-technically-minded editors might struggle to find the talk page. Should I initiate discussion there anyways or take it to RfD?

Thanks, Bernanke's Crossbow (talk) 17:33, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Bernanke's Crossbow, why not start a discussion at Talk:Mercury-vapor lamp. I am not convinced by your version, as disambig pages should help with navigation and stubs should be notable, and I don't think the new page does either. TSventon (talk) 18:15, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Article not showing on Visual Editor linking

Hi! I have been trying to create a draft for a corresponding article in the Italian Wikipedia that is Operation Strade sicure, so I created Draft: Operation Strade sicure but I am having trouble trying to link words to the Autostrada A3 which I have tried to search for but it kept directing me to List of A3 roads with the article not showing up. I mainly use visual editor and I don't know how to link things via source editing. I've read every search result, but it kept linking to other pages. Asvro (talk) 18:19, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Asvro, there is no Autostrada A3 article on English Wikipedia. Autostrada A3 is a redirect to List of A3 roads. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 18:23, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

On behalf to @Asvro, the problem has been fixed. Thank you. 2003 LN6 18:31, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

draft afc submission in my userpage

for fun and as a joke, i decided to copy the "draft afc submission" box from a draft lying around, and put it in my userpage with the heading "submit to me"

i would like to know out of curiosity, what would happen if i, or someone else, submits the "draft (that is my userpage)" for review?

i apologize if this is not the right place for me to ask things. i've had a look at the "am i in the right place" page; another place i could be in is the village pump for technical stuff but what i'm asking probably isn't a bug, so i'm here. — ppr22📄 18:41, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

It would be added to Category:Pending AfC submissions, but I wouldn't recommend wasting AfC volunteer time. I have added demo=y to take it out of Category:Draft AfC submissions, which possibly means it would be ignored. TSventon (talk) 19:00, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

right, the purpose is for it to just look ridiculous, like

a draft afc submission box... in a user page??? it's silly, right? :P

although if it were to be approved (which will never be, i know that, but my curiosity overtakes me), would my user page become an actual article or what would happen? — ppr22📄 10:32, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

If an editor writes an article on their user page and submits it through AfC, it will generally be moved to draft space before it is reviewed. Then if it is accepted it is moved to article space. So if User:Paper2222 was an article (which it isn't) and was submitted it could be moved to Draft:Paper2222 as a draft and then Paper2222 as an article. TSventon (talk) 11:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

so, my userpage would become an article

that's spooky haha. thanks for the answer! — ppr22📄 11:24, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Paper2222, it's clear that you have put a lot of effort into your user page and your signature. As this is, after all, an encyclopedia, how about putting effort into improving articles? -- Hoary (talk) 21:44, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

if this is just you yelling at me to put my effort in other, better places (i can't tell; autism)... i'm sorry. i would rather do (often useless) things that make me happy.

most of the work i've done are fixing obvious typos and other edits that are 90% of the time minor edits. the most i've probably ever done is add a citation to a [needs citation] message on a topic i know very well.

also, you can't exactly tell me how i waste my online time.

if this is an actual suggestion, then i would love to. i love the community and hustleness this place gives, and the amount of wikipedia trivia i've found out are endless. i hate thinking about how the majority of edits i've done is my user page. i would love to do more work in improving (and possibly even making) articles. i've just a few problems:

1. i'm too unconfident in making brave edits or new articles, since i'm afraid of getting ridiculed for it.

i know how to write articles (i think), and i know how to add citations pretty well, but my unconfidence just gets to me ;w;

2. i don't spend alot time on wikipedia

while i do visit this site often, i feel like i don't visit it enough to participate in any wikipedian-oriented events or discussions.

plus, (unbelievably,) i have a life. i go outside and i have millions of other hobbies i need to keep track of, which is a good segway to

3. i have way too many hobbies

adding wikipedia onto list of the other hobbies i have, on top of my terrible time management, is a recipe for failure. — ppr22📄 10:55, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Fixing obvious typos and adding citations on a topic you know very well are both useful things to do. TSventon (talk) 11:17, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

"Provolone" and "provola"

I realised a not insignificant problem: in this encyclopaedia there is the wikilink "provolone" on many words "provola", but these are two different cheeses, although similar: https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provolone; https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provola. JacktheBrown (talk) 21:04, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

JackkBrown, you can write an English article about Provola. Cullen328 (talk) 21:14, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Cullen328: You mean "provolone". All right, I copy and paste this. JacktheBrown (talk) 21:16, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

JackkBrown, no I didn't mean "provolone". We already have Provolone. Cullen328 (talk) 21:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Cullen328: sorry, I thought you wanted me to open a discussion on the "provolone" page. JacktheBrown (talk) 21:25, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

JackkBrown, I didn't say that. Cullen328 (talk) 21:31, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Cullen328: I know; I misunderstood, unfortunately. JacktheBrown (talk) 21:32, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

[Edit Conflict] So delink them. Likely this English language Wikipedia does need (or at least would benefit from) more Italians, but that would require more English-competent Italians to voluntarily become active editors here – how can that be achieved?

Of course, exactly the same surely applies to all other non-Anglophone cultures. And I'm sure that Anglosphere topics covered in the Italian and other non-English Wikipedias also have some similar problems. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 188.220.144.58 (talk) 21:21, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Dear IP, it's not easy to do it on all pages, alone I can't do it. JacktheBrown (talk) 21:23, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

JacktheBrown, you have several times pointed out that coverage in en:Wikipedia of Italian matters is poor. This poverty is regrettable but not at all surprising. If you want to remind people of it and perhaps also appeal for help, why not do so at WT:WikiProject Italy or WT:WikiProject Food and drink? -- Hoary (talk) 21:54, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Hoary: no, the Italian topics are treated sufficiently well here, but they could certainly be improved (for example the "Sicily" article, the "Kingdom of Italy" article, the "Italy" article and many others in en.wiki are better). JacktheBrown (talk) 21:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

JacktheBrown, so what's your purpose in bringing up here (Help Desk) successive examples of what could certainly be improved? -- Hoary (talk) 22:41, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

April 26

Update template dates?

I see some people (mostly IPs) update maintenance template(like npv dispute, unreferenced) dates to current month. I think it is wrong as the dates are to measure how long the problem has been there. Am I correct? ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 07:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

@ExclusiveEditor: Yes. Please feel free to revert such edits (bit do not edit war); and ask them to desist on their talk pages. You may report persistent offenders to WP:ANI.

Note that this does not apply to templates like {{Use British English}}, {{Use American English}}, {{Use dmy dates}}, {{Use mdy dates}}, etc. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:32, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

St George's Church, Leeds

I accidently removed the photo in the info box, please return if you are able. Thank you in advance 144.130.154.129 (talk) 08:39, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done   Maproom (talk) 09:18, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Sidebar

I would like to add a sidebar like the one shown on the right on this page: Valentine Ackland to the webpage that I created here: John Craske

How can I add this fetaure? I have tried searching FAQs but have not found an answer. I have an image ready to go. Thank you CarolynCo (talk) 09:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

@CarolynCo: That's an infobox. I see you have now added one. Thank you for your contributions! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:28, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Rishishwar Society information

Not a request for help

ऋषिस्वर ब्राह्मण की उत्पत्ति के बारे में किसी को भी प्रमाण सहित जानकारी प्राप्त नहीं है कुछ व्यक्तियों द्वारा पटियाओ द्वारा दी गई वंशावली के आधार पर ऋषिस्वर ब्राह्मणों को द्रविड़ ब्राह्मण माना है! द्रविड़ ब्राह्मण शिव उपासक होते हैं त्रिपुंड धारी  होते हैं। यह आदि गौड़ ब्राह्मण से अलग होते हैं वशिष्ठ आदि गौड़ ब्राह्मणों से इनका कोई लेना-देना नहीं है ऋषिस्वर ब्राह्मण मुख्यतः है ग्वालियर मुरैना भिंड उज्जैन इंदौर जामगढ़ छिंदवाड़ा सागर विदिशा झाबुआ इटावा उन्नाव सफीपुर कानपुर में मुख्यतः निवास करते हैं। Abhishek indore Dixit (talk) 09:43, 26 April 2024 (UTC) This is the English Wikipedia, please communicate in English. 331dot (talk) 09:51, 26 April 2024 (UTC) Google translation: No one has any proof of the origin of Rishiswar Brahmins. Some people have considered Rishiswar Brahmins as Dravidian Brahmins on the basis of the genealogy given by the Patias. Dravidian Brahmins are Shiva worshippers and wear Tripund. They are different from Adi Gaud Brahmins. They have nothing to do with Vashishtha and other Gaud Brahmins. Rishiswar Brahmins mainly reside in Gwalior, Morena, Bhind, Ujjain, Indore, Jamgarh, Chhindwara, Sagar, Vidisha, Jhabua, Etawah, Unnao, Safipur, Kanpur. That's a polemic, not a request for help editing Wikipedia. Collapsing. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:25, 26 April 2024 (UTC)