Talk:Bonnie Raitt

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R&B[edit]

I have trouble seeing the similarities between B. R.'s music and what is described in the article on Rhythm and Blues. Can someone explain? ike9898 02:08, Jan 12, 2005 (UTC)

Its all good!!!!

Some people have trouble understanding it so don't feel bad!!! —preceding unsigned comment by 165.138.113.252 (talk • contribs) 14:25, February 15, 2005

I don't think that explained the answer very well, so I'm going to field this one. R&B is of course a merge of blues music with a rhythmic backbeat, at its core. Raitt, being one of the late 20th century's most experimental within the genre may be considered at times to have stepped outside the lines confined by the title, but her general style is intrinsically this, even though some of her biggest songs are not in the centre of the style. Much like the guy who did Footloose (song) and Danger zone (song) was mostly a country singer, but his two biggest hits in the mainstream charts didn't have much country influence in the,. Although, I believe in much of Raitt's music, she still is more closely rooted in R&B than following the cliffnotes.

Hope that halps.

lincalinca 02:51, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a swing here. She isn't primarily rooted in R&B. She is primarily rooted in the blues. R&B is certainly related to blues but blues is older and R&B is partly derived from it, with heavy influences from church music and from pop music. Many of her songs, especially her early ones, are traditiona twelve-bar blues. In the end, it's all marketing categories anyway and you could market "Love Has no Pride" as a country song and have a hit. In fact, I always wanted to ask EK if he thought he was writing a country song when he wrote it. That would be with absolutely no disrespect. Will in New Haven

The big problem here is the lack of a definition for the term R&B. It could mean Chuck Berry, Sam Cooke, Earth Wind and Fire, Usher, Janet Jackson... The term is also complicated by the associations with African American culture rather than European American culture. To me, Bonnie Raitt is a blues rock musician or quite simply a rock musician. The vocabulary of her music resembles the Rolling Stones or Bruce Springsteen and all the rest of 'em (she sounds like a white musician that is for certain). All rock music is blues based anyway. For sure, Bonnie Raitt is not *modern* R&B - even when she won those Grammies her brand was 20 years out of date. I am a musician... my colleagues and I were surprised at her Grammy categorizations at the time, and on that basis alone I did not vote for her - I felt like white people were hijacking the term R&B for their own purposes like they are doing with rap now. She won anyway. She is an excellent musician; I don't mean to disparage her otherwise. 12.72.194.233 (talk) 14:36, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Guitar given at 8, started playing at 12?[edit]

Bonnie said on Tavis Smiley that Joan Baez gave her a guitar when she was 8... doesn't jive with starting to play at 12 —preceding unsigned comment by 141.151.172.183 (talk • contribs) 23:29, November 24, 2005

Full name[edit]

Was she not born Bonnie Lynn Raitt ? Derek R Bullamore 20:21, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think so, but i would want to confirm before putting it on here.

--lincalinca 02:55, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Does this substantial evidence from reputable sources convince you ? [1], [2], [3]. Regards,

Derek R Bullamore 14:00, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly does. I wasn't disputing it, but I didn't have time to look it up. I was busy (other than tidying up the rest of the page). I'll adjust that now. Thanks.

--58.165.55.2 13:35, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PART 2: I just went to make a redirect page and one already exists for "bonnie lynn raitt". Seems it's been a redirect for about 2 years, so someone has thought of that before.

--58.165.55.2 13:39, 12 December 2006 (UTC) again. (PS: not a sockpuppet, just cbf signing in)[reply]

Bio Projects[edit]

Why is this under both Biography and guitarists? Shouldn't it just be under one project? Otherwise we'll end up getting (well, maybe not since there's not much traffic here, but we might get) edit wars between the priorities of the two projects.

Just a thought.

--lincalinca 02:55, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Date of Birth[edit]

The article presently states Raitt was born in both 1948 and 1949 ! Which is correct ?

Derek R Bullamore 10:31, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Freebo[edit]

I always wondered why Freebo, bass player, tuba player, background vocals, never appeared on any of her albums or tours after being on all of them for so long. Will in New Haven

GA[edit]

With no references at all, this article doesn't stand a chance of passing a GA. --andreasegde 00:29, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I've failed it for that reason. 17Drew 08:55, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Battle plan"[edit]

First thing needed is sourcing. There's a broken image (Tongue and Groove's name change and release section) and the lead needs expansion (at a glance). But yeah, the sources would be the first thing, and I can work from there. giggy _(:O) 23:30, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"her" songs[edit]

The intro to this article says that Raitt is famous for *her* songs (Something To Talk About, Can't Make You Love Me...). They aren't *her* songs as she did not write them. The article should refer to her *performances* of those songs. i don't feel comfortable changing the article myself... 12.72.194.233 (talk) 14:44, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The lead could use more work in general: It focuses just on the Nick of Time era, which was a resurgence. It should talk more about her style, her well respect covers of songs and something about her broader career. (John User:Jwy talk) 19:13, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Radcliffe College[edit]

I took exception to the phrase "Harvard's Radcliffe College", which seems to imply that Radcliffe was part of, or belonged to, Harvard, which was not the case in 1967. The two colleges had very close ties, but Radcliffe was still an independent entity. So I deleted "Harvard's". Tomtab (talk) 07:17, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This article isn't B class until it gets more referencing[edit]

I have reclassified this to C class because of a lack of references throughout the article. The criteria for B class includes referencing and only 7 footnotes exist for the entire article. Cuprum17 (talk) 02:00, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good edit. Its got 18 refs now but still a C class IMO until everything is at least referenced. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 19:15, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

1978 lenox massachusetts, music inn, twilight concerts on yhe lawn [ ---- ][edit]

I was there working for roger abrahams , promoter, back stage, met bonnie, what a night. does anyone remember, or attend this show ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.138.24 (talk) 11:48, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry this is not the place for conversations about concerts. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 19:10, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Missing word(s) from a sentence — anyone know what it should say?[edit]

There are one or more missing words from this sentence:

Raitt became with, then 65 year old, bluesman, Dick Waterman.

Does anyone know what's missing?

— franl | talk ✤ 18:41, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The word -friend- was missing, I fixed it . thanks -- — Keithbob • Talk • 19:08, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Little Feat[edit]

How is there not one mention of Bonnie's involvement with the incredible "Little Feat?" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.55.196.12 (talk) 08:09, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We would need some sources that report that. If you know of any let us know so we can include it. Thanks. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 22:46, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dick Waterman[edit]

"Raitt became friends with, then 65 year old, bluesman, Dick Waterman." I was curious about Waterman, so I clicked on the link. His page says he was born in 1935. If that is true, he was 33 in 1968, the year Raitt was a sophomore in college. (And from a grammatical standpoint, none of those commas is necessary, although it should be 65-year-old. Or 33-year-old, as the case may be.)Lisapaloma (talk) 20:01, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My understanding (which is by no means conclusive) is that Raitt began hanging around with a group of old time bluesman and dropped out of college to travel with them. So the age gap seems OK to me in the context.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 22:44, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ip has added anti nuke template in "expanded" state, should that be shrunk or removed?[edit]

Thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 04:29, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Distinctive Appearance[edit]

Her one streak of lighter hair is a very Distinctive Appearance. any one know if it is really Poliosis? It is also known as Mallen streak. Would it be appropriate to add this to the article ?

Here is seperate page on the condition I found before the Wiki Page. https://www.modernsalon.com/article/25105/rare-hair-condition-creates-mallen-streak-a-higlighted-streak-youre-born-with describes it as Wfoj3 (talk) 20:26, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Redwing link incorrect[edit]

The Redwing link is to a different company (Red). Which is unrelated to Bonnie's label "Redwing Records".. 24.61.217.148 (talk) 12:23, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - now corrected. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:29, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]