Talk:Nick Hornby

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POV[edit]

I'm just ranting here. I can't bear to NPOV this "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" puff piece. Help! Caltrop 03:47, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. Added a request for cleanup... Gabriel Roth 02:38, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone up for a list-style bibliography at the end? Zephyrprince 02:47, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I've removed the cleanup notice. I don't know if some work has been done since it was added but I can see nothing in the article to justify it now. --Cherry blossom tree 22:08, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the one who added the cleanup notice. I agree that it's no longer warranted -- the article's a lot better. Thanks to everyone who improved it. Gabriel Roth 16:01, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Class[edit]

"Hornby belonged to the English upper-class"........ this seems to be a bit wrong to me. In Britain, as opposed to America, "upper-class" should properly speaking mean the old landed aristocracy or gentry. Even the richest businessman is by definition bourgeois - Marx's definition of the middle-class.

Okay, I accept that the American use of the terminology has, sadly, infected the English language, and many will just use the term "upper-class" to mean the richest, or the rulers of society. Even then though, was Hornby's dad really one of the richest and/or most influential businessmen in the UK? There is no evidence for this. That Hornby went to grammar school rather than public/private school seems to back this up. Anyway, to summarise, I believe this defintion of "upper-class" is a peculiarly American piece if milabling, and suggest changing to either "middle-class" or "upper-middle class."

I have to smile. A review I once read of "Fever Pitch" said that it was about "growing up poor in north London and supporting the working class Arsenal Football Club". Hornby is the son of a kinght, grew up in middle class Maidenhead, went to the local grammar school and then Cambridge University. The Rough Guide to European soccer describes Arsenal fans as "well-heeled and well-behaved". Millbanks 08:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, no objections? I'm changing it to middle-class. Cite if you disagree.

That's fine. Hornby is one of those people who make the English feel uncomfortable, because it's hard to label him. He's a football fan and a grammar school boy with an estuary accent. He's also the Cambridge-educated son of a knight. When Fever Pitch was read on "Book at Bedtime", there were objections because it was perceived to be unsuitable. I doubt if many of those objecting had degees in English from Cambridge or anywhere else. Millbanks (talk) 08:17, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see that Hornby has been "blamed" for the fact that you might sit next to a solicitor at a football match. I've changed "blamed" to "credited". Studies have shown that football support is drawn from a complete cross section of society, and the implication that there's somehow something wrong with a solicitor going to football match is an odious manifestation of the nasty English class system. Millbanks (talk) 22:23, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Once more unto the breach[edit]

I heard hornby stole all his best ideas from long-time arsenal hot-dog seller "Fat Harry" Haritakis. And while hornby bagged the millions, Fat Harry has to soldier on with his famous frankfurter stand (although I believe he's now doing quite well with his burgers as well). Turn right out of the Arsenal station - get em while they're hot, they're lovely! [1] LutherFlint 23:45, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Remove sentence[edit]

The following sentence has had a Ref. Request tag since Nov 2007. Should we now remove the unreferenced sentence?

"Hornby and Marah (whose small but intensely dedicated band of fans also includes Stephen King and Bruce Springsteen) have worked together on this project over time, and together put on a show of all the essays and songs, concluding with his essay about Marah themselves, and followed by a full concert of the band's own songs." --BwB (talk) 11:52, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Bibliography[edit]

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