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Text and/or other creative content from this version of John Major was copied or moved into Premiership of John Major with this edit. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Infobox image[edit]

The infobox has featured two files in the past couple of days (see below). I suggest that the current (1995) image be replaced with the 1996 image, for said image is both more recent and of a much better quality that the 1995 one. --Lord Stephenson (talk) 16:21, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

1995 image
1996 image

My preference is to keep using the 1995 image Ciaran.london (talk) 15:55, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lord Stephenson is right here, the 1996 image and clearer quality than 1995. We should change the infobox portrait Politicsnerd123 (talk) 19:52, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer the 1995 image. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 05:59, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Currie Affair[edit]

Why is his affair with Edwin a Curry not mentioned? Rustygecko (talk) 02:43, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you're not referring to the lead, the affair is mentioned in the body of the article. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 19:33, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's a marginal one admittedly, and I'm mindful of the fact that we should be wary of the risk of giving undue weight to negative information in a BLP article, but as against that, I do think that it received significant enough media coverage to warrant a short mention in the lead. (This is particularly because commentators were quick to draw a link with "Back to Basics", as the article already mentions.) Any other opinions for or against inclusion in the lead? --Dani di Neudo (talk) 18:31, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's sort of teetering on the edge of inclusion or exclusion in the lead, as it is a large part of his post-parliamentary career. I'd lean to probably not including it in the lead, given it has its own paragraph and is mentioned in a few others. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 23:03, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Heseltine linked twice[edit]

Just noting here the fact that my recent edit means that Michael Heseltine is now wiki-linked twice in the article text. The two places are well separated, so it seems to me helpful to have both, but unlink the later one if you disagree. Dani di Neudo (talk) 18:20, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pic[edit]

I've noticed the back and forth about the infobox pic. Considering Major is still alive, shouldn't we use a more recent picture such as this one? – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 13:19, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:47, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. It should be the one currently used, outside 10 Downing Street in 1995, as Prime Minister. It is high resolution and looks towards the text, ideal for an infobox. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 05:58, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the one currently used is better. As he is notable primarily for having been Prime Minister, it makes sense to use a photo which relates to this in terms of its date and setting. (User:Tim O'Doherty also makes reasonable points above, regarding the stylistic considerations.) --Dani di Neudo (talk) 16:55, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. The current photo is appallingly grainy. Ingrid997 (talk) 16:48, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Filelakeshoe: @Martinevans123: @Dani di Neudo: @Ingrid997: - The image has now been changed: would like to hear your thoughts on it. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 21:02, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Seems fine. I definitely think we need something from during his premiership. Another possibility is File:John Major 1996.jpg. I'm pretty much neutral as to whether it would be an improvement or not. There are pros and cons: it avoids the problem of being grainy, but it loses the Downing Street setting. Dani di Neudo (talk) 11:30, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]