Talk:KGB

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Confusing intro[edit]

The intro paragraph seems to have become hopelessly edited-by-committee. The 2005 version https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=KGB&oldid=17734506 gave a succinct summary of what the KGB was and its founding & end. The current version is a set of random, disjoint facts that do not serve as an introduction. Any objections to a revert of the intro paragraph to roughly the 2005 version, and a move of the disjoint facts (South Ossetia's KGB spinoff, etc) down into the article? -- Dreadengineer (talk) 06:18, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling error?[edit]

Shouldn't "Комитет Государственной Безопасноти" in the sidebar be "Комитет Государственной Безопасности"?

Vladmir Putin[edit]

Is it worth mentioning Putin's name in this article?Dogru144 (talk) 00:12, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think he was senior enough.--Jack Upland (talk) 07:09, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 3 May 2024[edit]

It has been proposed in this section that KGB be renamed and moved to Committee for State Security (Soviet Union).

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KGB → Committee for State Security (Soviet Union) – The article's naming convention is inconsistent with the rest of Wikipedia, for example:

Hell, even the other KGBs are have a different naming convention. Leonard LMT (talk) 00:39, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per overwhelming WP:COMMONNAME. In English, it is almost everywhere known and referred to simply as "KGB". Walrasiad (talk) 05:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
With that logic we need to move Central Intelligence Agency and Federal Bureau of Investigation to CIA and FBI.

Why does WP:COMMONNAME only apply to KGB and NKVD? Leonard LMT (talk) 06:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Per MOS:ACROTITLE, consensus could decide if an acronym could be used in the page title "if the subject is known primarily by its abbreviation and that abbreviation is primarily associated with the subject". In this particular case, the alternative that the OP proposes, "Committee for State Security", is not a very common name used in most English language reliable sources, so it is better to leave the page title as it is, unless there is another comparative WP:COMMONAME. The other articles that the OP mentions has not gained MOS:ACROTITLE consensus yet (Central Intelligence Agency is currently cited as one example in that guideline). Zzyzx11 (talk) 08:07, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nearly every other similar agency does not follow WP:COMMONNAME and I am willing that the articles that I listed don't always fall under MOS:ACROTITLE, even if a consensus was made. Leonard LMT (talk) 08:45, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per above. No brainer here; even if you think we're being "inconsistent" somehow, WP:IAR applies. It is all the more understandable what is being referred to when this article is called "KGB" than when it is called (the unheard-of) "Committee for State Security".—indopug (talk) 11:13, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]