Talk:2002 French presidential election
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Cleanup[edit]
Its very clean now, I deleted the Cleanup — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.61.29.237 (talk • contribs) 04:42, 28 March 2005 (UTC)
Turnout[edit]
Which is the 71.6% turnout for, for the first or second round? There should be two figures. DirkvdM 07:44, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Mistake[edit]
In the pic: J'ai mal au coeur translates as "i'm feeling sick"(as in i'm about to vomit) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.198.13.176 (talk • contribs) 00:44, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
External links[edit]
People, thank you for giving your opinion here about adding this external link (Presidential Vote Results by Commune) Indeed as I am COI by creating this site, I would like your opinion before any addition. As you can see, the site provides an important information: 2002 Presidential vote results by commune. Thank you, Blanchisserie 08:20, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
- I think a map showing the result by commune could be of interest to some. As the article currently lacks a map showing the result of the 2nd round - which must be all blue Chirac? - I think it might be best to create that first? bon courage Setwisohi (talk) 21:11, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
- Bonjour,
- I agree with you for a map showing result by commune. But the problem is that there are more than 36,682 communes in France ! You can imagine that it is not possible to display such a map of France... I am planning to do such a map for the "Départements" (only 100) The external link I propose to add (2002 Presidential Vote Results by Commune)) enable people to make comparison on a very precise level, namely "Communes". Would you agree me adding this external link ? Blanchisserie 13:41, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Brown colour for Le Pen?[edit]
Does Le Pen's political party use the colour brown as official colour in any way? I suspect that the brown stripe under Le Pen's portrait is intended to smear him as a "Nazi", since the Nazis used the colour brown. In fact, if the colours useed (blue for Chirac, brown for Le Pen) are not in any way officially associated with the parties in question, I suggest that they be removed altogether, since they do not add to the article in any way. Theis101 (talk) 11:48, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
- Since there is no opposition, and the article National Front (France) lists the party's official colours as blue, white and red, I have removed the brown stripe. Theis101 (talk) 15:01, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- Brown is the universal acceptable colour used for the far-right, and it makes sense. The right is blue, the left is red, greens are greens, the centre is light blue, the far-left is dark red and so forth. I don't give a flying fuck about what the FN's colours claim to be, obviously they'll use the colours of the flag. How are we supposed to use their THREE claimed colours in one colour, genius? We can't. Brown is the colour of the far-right, and there's been no contoversy on here whatsoever before you started changing things around. Don't re-change it. --Petrovic-Njegos (talk) 21:17, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
- I disagree. Brown is associated with the Nazis, but that doesn't mean that we can extend that to all far-right parties. A fundamental principle of Wikipedia is that all information must be referenced to a reliable source. There are no reliable sources associating the FN with the colour brown. Just because you think that "it's the universal acceptable colour used for the far-right" doesn't mean that you can import your own ideas into a neutral encyclopedia just like that. The reason red is used for the left, blue for the right, etc., is that those parties' logos usually contain those colours. Of course I understand that it's not possible to have three colours in one as it is now, but that's not an argument for adding a fourth colour that is not documented to be associated with the party in question. Also, as a personal advice, I would recommend that you cut down on the swearing and condescending remarks, as it may give readers an unfavourable impression of you. Theis101 (talk) 15:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
- Furthermore, I postulate that the reason there hasn't been any controversy here before is that the colour code is hidden deep inside some obscure configuration variables instead of being editable in the article, so most people haven't figured out how to change them. Theis101 (talk) 15:10, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
- You want a reference? Try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_colours#France or this: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Couleur_politique#France. There have been discussions in the past on this topic, and brown came out as the acceptable colour. Nobody ever went to complain about the use of the colour. Now, I don't see why you, genius, came out all of a sudden and decided to randomly change colours around (and change it to white, which is the colour of pacifism, legitimism, or Catholicism; and blue, which is the colour of the mainstream right). Brown is perfectly acceptable, as would be dark gray for example. Blue is not because it is already associated with the UMP-NC/the right, white is not because it is the colour of the monarchy and political Catholicism, red is not because it's the colour of the left and purple is not because it's the colour of legitimism. Please stop changing the colours to whatever it is, because the far-right is brown-gray on Wikipedia, English or French. --Petrovic-Njegos (talk) 20:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
- I agree with Theis101: this colour choice is a problem since brown is most commonly associated with fascism, which is distinct from right-wing nationalism generally speaking. I suggest using dark blue, which would be far more coherent since dark red is used for the far left and dark blue is used for the map. (As a sidenote, I am amazed at your gratuitous rudeness. This is just a harmless discussion over a petty technical detail... Chill out!
) — SniperMaské (talk) 22:43, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with Theis101: this colour choice is a problem since brown is most commonly associated with fascism, which is distinct from right-wing nationalism generally speaking. I suggest using dark blue, which would be far more coherent since dark red is used for the far left and dark blue is used for the map. (As a sidenote, I am amazed at your gratuitous rudeness. This is just a harmless discussion over a petty technical detail... Chill out!
- You want a reference? Try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_colours#France or this: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Couleur_politique#France. There have been discussions in the past on this topic, and brown came out as the acceptable colour. Nobody ever went to complain about the use of the colour. Now, I don't see why you, genius, came out all of a sudden and decided to randomly change colours around (and change it to white, which is the colour of pacifism, legitimism, or Catholicism; and blue, which is the colour of the mainstream right). Brown is perfectly acceptable, as would be dark gray for example. Blue is not because it is already associated with the UMP-NC/the right, white is not because it is the colour of the monarchy and political Catholicism, red is not because it's the colour of the left and purple is not because it's the colour of legitimism. Please stop changing the colours to whatever it is, because the far-right is brown-gray on Wikipedia, English or French. --Petrovic-Njegos (talk) 20:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
- Brown is the universal acceptable colour used for the far-right, and it makes sense. The right is blue, the left is red, greens are greens, the centre is light blue, the far-left is dark red and so forth. I don't give a flying fuck about what the FN's colours claim to be, obviously they'll use the colours of the flag. How are we supposed to use their THREE claimed colours in one colour, genius? We can't. Brown is the colour of the far-right, and there's been no contoversy on here whatsoever before you started changing things around. Don't re-change it. --Petrovic-Njegos (talk) 21:17, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
- Since there is no opposition, and the article National Front (France) lists the party's official colours as blue, white and red, I have removed the brown stripe. Theis101 (talk) 15:01, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
"alleged crime wave"[edit]
Why this left-wing framing? Why alleged? France has lots of problems with crimes and quite a lot of them are done by immigrants with maghreb backgrounds. 62.226.84.210 (talk) 03:17, 26 July 2023 (UTC)