Talk:Isle of Thanet

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I started a page on the Wantsum Channel without checking here. I think there's enough potential for full article on it. You've got prehistory, Roman use, Richborough and Reculver, different theories on the silting process which is not fully understood, medieval trade and land reclamation, sea access for Sandwich and Canterbury, Stonar bank, post-med sluices and the first world war mystery port at the very least. Would anyone mid if I move the Wantsum info from here to its own page? It is after all just as relevant to the mainland as the Isle of Thanet. adamsan 21:51, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

There's a mass of local information and photos now growing as a resource at ThanetLife It will be a labour of love to move some of the information across but certainly photos and aerial photographs of Thanet, including the recently discovered Bronze Age burials and galleries of Reculvers et al will have to stay there until Wikipedia can take the photos. --84.12.50.210 20:53, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)DrMoores

music

we have our own thanet/east kent rock music wiki project at http://wiki.oonagi.co.uk would it be right to add this???

If the Thanet Scene is notable enough then it might deserve an article of its own. Either way you would need to demonstrate that some of the bands did more than release demos; that they had mainstream media converage or influenced more famous acts etc otherwise mention of it is likely to get deleted. Maybe an article putting it in the context of the wider artistic scene of Thanet with Emin, the Turner Centre and so on would work, didn't Van Gogh teach in Margate for a while? adamsan 13:02, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Rebecca Need-Menear from the band Anavae was featured in a song by Third Place Victory (which was a Thanet-based band). This was before she formed Anavae. Third Place Victory often played at Westcoast Live in Margate, which is now Olby's Soul Cafe & Music Rooms. Big Steve is a local singer-songwriter who wrote a song about Ramsgate called "In Ramsgate". It was featured in The Sun. We've had the likes of Frank Turner, Chas & Dave, and The Beatles play in our local venues. We have a local music school known as MAP ran by Ivan Hussey. JayTurnr (talk) 19:40, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Van Gogh taught in Royal Road, Ramsgate.

I believe it would be correct to add a link to oonagi.PhilipPage 22:23, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Split

Why the split, given that the district and the Isle are coterminous? We don't haven't split Manhattan Island and Manhattan or Commonwealth of Australia and Australia (continent). Morwen - Talk 15:03, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

The District of Thanet is bigger as includes land that was underwater at the time that Thanet was an island.I'm pretty sure that even today, the term Isle of Thanet refers only to the higher ground but I could be wrong. adamsan 20:04, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Ah. Ok. The article should be updated to include that, then.  ;) Morwen - Talk 07:25, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

I think the age difference should be taken into account, as a district it's a relatively new development but as an Isle it's much older. Historically the district is not very important, but as an Island it is. PhilipPage 22:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry guys, but I'm recommending this for a merge. The differences could be stated in the article without the need for two pages and I think information is getting lost between the two. Votes below I guess. KevinCarmody 01:47, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I do not believe they should be merged. However, I do think that the information on both pages needs to be carefully looked at to make sure this entry focuses on the geography and history (including the exteranl links) of the geographically defined area and the district page focuses on the modern day district with little history or geograpy.Ksbrown

Guess I'll agree. I'll remove the tags. KevinCarmody 21:42, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanet and Thanatos

Is there any connection between Thanet and Thanatos, the personification of death in Greek mythology? Pgr94 12:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

There is a local biker gang by that name, does that count? ;) KevinCarmody 01:49, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

NB: Thanet isle of the dead. --Antiphus (talk) 20:32, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Links to blogs

According to WP:EL:

Links to be avoided [...] 11. Links to blogs and personal webpages, except those written by a recognized authority.

Therefore I have moved the links to blogs here while this is discussed.Pgr94 22:24, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

• http://www.thanetbloglist.co.uk - List of Thanet Blogs
• http://www.thanetlife.com - Blog regarding news and views of Thanet
• http://artsandelbows.blogspot.com - Thanet arts blog

agreed I feel that a proliferation of blog links should be avoided if possible. Regards Lynbarn 18:33, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanet district/Isle confusion

From recent contributions it is apparent that contributors (and presumably readers too) are not clear about the distinction between Isle and District. Contributions that belong to district are ending up in Isle. In my opinion it would be good to make the distinction even clearer. Pgr94 11:31, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Second Thanet in New Zealand

There is evidently a second Thanet in New Zealand -- see http://absnz.co.nz/place/thanet. Interestingly it's also near Canterbury, which implies some historical link.

I'm not sure if it really merits a page by itself though... If so, presumably we would need to set up disambiguation either at the head of this Isle of Thanet page, or create a new Thanet disambiguation page for District/Isle/NZ, or simply insert "for Thanet NZ see xxx" etc.

If it doesn't merit its own page, I suppose we should add a comment in the external links section.

Anyway, I'm not sure of the details of Wikipedia's policy on disambiguation, so having brought this to your attention I hope someone else will act on it!

Ozaru 19:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Possible Incorrect Link

I notice a possible link error within this article. The hyperlink relating to Woodchurch Isle of Thanet (within the Cinque Ports section) is sending readers to Woodchurch Merseyside, rather than Woodchurch Isle of Thanet. Perhaps someone might wish to check this for all readers.

Fixed. Pgr94 18:16, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanet in popular culture

As 'everyone knows' the correct way to invade England involves landing on the Isle of Thanet (from whence England may be over-run by Fire And The Sword)... (1066 and All That; for those who haven't read it).

Many article have an 'in popular culture' section; surely Thanet deserves one too.

Woodchurch link still incorrect

The link has been ammended to a Woodchurch not within Isle of Thanet I am afraid.

Woodchurch - in the Isle of Thanet is small, and may not require anything more than it being mentioned. CT7 0HQ will give its location on a search engine..

Woodchurch (presumably had a wooden church at one time?) now comprises of a few posh homes (and a few not so posh) a car breakers and some riding stables and dog kennels... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.168.134.1 (talk) 15:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Removed the potentially confusing Woodchurch link (leaving just the text), as it took readers to the village of the same name situated between Tenterden and Ashford.

Gary Samson (talk) 22:51, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

English channel formed when?

8,500 years ago? that's not what the English Channel page says...

Article demerged

The merge which took place, in spite of objections, has been resuscitated and rewritten to deal with just the Isle. It is not the same as the Thanet District - the Isle is some 7000 years old and the District only 34 years old; and not all of the latter is just the Isle - part of the Eastry RDC was used to form the district. It should be noted that there is also another article Thanet District Council. None of the other Districts in Kent have separate article for the Council itself, so this will be my next project. I am sure there are other things that can be said about the island, and there were some statements that seem to have no authority for them, but I leave that to others. What matters is that this article should deal with the Isle of Thanet alone Peter Shearan (talk) 15:17, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Impact of the silting of the Wantsum Channel on the people of The Isle.

I would like to draw your attention to the following 15th century document which describes the problems experienced by the people of Thanet caused by the silting of the channel and the measures that were taken to try and solve them.

Canterbury Cathedral Archives: CCA-DCc-ChAnt/T/31 [Late 15th century] Bill (draft): Since time immemorial a ferry between the Isle of Thanet and the rest of Kent has crossed [the Wantsum Channel] at Sarre. Recently the channel has become so silted up that the ferry can no longer cross it, except for an hour during the high spring tides. This is a grave disadvantage to those who have lands in Thanet, and may lead to Thanet's being captured during a war, because troops cannot be easily transported across the Wantsum Channel. An act of parliament was passed, empowering the inhabitants of Thanet to build a bridge as specified at Sarre. After the bridge is built, the chancellor of England shall appoint commissioners to make provision for the repair and maintenance of the bridge and to the roads and causeways leading to it, and to build new roads and causeways when necessary. The inhabitants of Thanet shall be liable for any costs. The commissions shall be sent to the Justices of the Peace, so that they can enquire about damage to the haven of Sandwich and the causeways, and whether building the bridge at Sarre will harm the haven. If the enquiry finds that the haven will be improved by removing the bridge, the comissioners can remove it. Significant alterations to text. No date. [Date: handwriting]. A private act of parliament enabling the inhabitants of Sarre to build a bridge was passed in 1HenryVII [22 Aug 1485 - 21 Aug 1486]. Endorsed: 'Billa de Thaneto' and with the handwriting practiced in late 15th century. Ptrysya (talk) 13:01, 17 July 2010 (UTC)PtrysyaPtrysya

Sorry, can now see you have included the building of the bridge in 1485, my mistake. Ptrysya

Second Monastery in Britain

is, frankly, specious. Wales was rife with them and Augustine himself ran into one near Chester that was recorded as having 1000+ monks (before he talked Æthelfrith into killing them all for refusing to move their Easters over one Sunday every few years). Is there some "officially-sanctioned" or "rule of Benedict" that's missing from the claim or is it just wrong?

Does the claim (apparently about Canterbury and not Thanet at all) even belong in this article?  — LlywelynII 14:59, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Etymology

On the British route of the name, Nennius explicitly says that Thanet is the Saxon term:

"Guorthigirnus suscepit eos benigne et tradidit eis insulam quae in lingua eorum vocatur Tanet, britannico sermone Ruoihm"

"Vortigern received them as friends, and delivered up to them the island which is in their language called Thanet, and, by the Britons, Ruoihm"

Also the link to this site http://www.roman-britain.org/index.htm is hardly prestigious...... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anagallis63 (talk • contribs) 11:35, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

I agree about roman-britain.org – I've never thought of it as a reliable source – and I might have a go at this section. I think we can lose mention of Homer's Iliad as obvious cobblers that might as well have been written by Geoffrey of Monmouth, or some other "believer"; Ptolemy doesn't call Thanet "Tolianis", he calls an island "Toliapis", which Flinders Petrie thought might've been a remnant of, in effect, Doggerland, somewhere in the North Sea/English Channel area (anyway Ptolemy's co-ordinates look way out for Thanet to my limited understanding, and he relates his island to the Trinovantes in East Anglia, not to the Cantii in, er, Kent). The rest looks ok but needs fixing: the bit about the Plea Rolls is overkill and can go, never mind how interesting one might find the photo reference. Nortonius (talk) 16:17, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Done. Nortonius (talk) 22:03, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Goldfinger

The Isle of Thanet is mentioned near the end of Chapter 11 of Goldfinger. — Muckapedia (talk) 25^e mars 2015 13h44 (−4h)