Talk:Mount Barney (Queensland)

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Unusual Statement[edit]

"It is not recommended to ascend south-east ridge and descend Barney gorge within one day (take food, puri tabs, jumper, and a torch)." I doubt that most people reading this article would even attempt this route, it doesnt even mention that a car shuffle is required to do that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.94.54.14 (talk) 03:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly Incorrect[edit]

"In the 1840s some of the mountain's ridge were logged, with some cut stumps still visible today." The source for this appears incorrect. It is doubtful that Mt Barney was logged in the 1840s. It is important to recognise that the Mt Barney region remained remote and relatively unknown to Europeans until at least the 1850s, and that Europeans did not move into the immediate vicinity of Mt Barney until the nearby squatting runs (Telemon and Maroon) were progressively broken up in the later decades of the 19th century, and early decades of the 20th century - ie. from about the 1870s through to about 1915. In the 1840s timber getting operations in south-east Queensland were confined to easy to get at locations, where timber was plentiful and logs could be moved to a mill with relative ease (ie. floated in rafts, etc)- these included the lower Albert and Logan Rivers, the Noosa River, the Brisbane River, etc. From what I can establish, timber getters only became interested in Mt Barney in the early to mid 20th century, when other nearby sources of timber (Palen Creek, etc) were starting to thin out, and when improvements in transport and technology made the cutting and removal of logs from Mt Barney cost effective, etc. So my guess is that the 'cut stumps' you see here and there at Mt Barney date from the early to mid 20th century, not the 1840s. Notably, this same source also states that cattle were grazed on the slopes of Mt Barney in the 1840s, which again is problematic. When the Moreton Bay pastoral district was opened in 1842 it was primarily stocked with sheep - and we can see this in the Crown Lands Commissioner's returns of runs from the 1840s. It was only later, when it became apparent that the region was not suitable for sheep, that cattle numbers increased. Telemon was possibly one of the first of the sheep runs in the Mt Barney region to go over to cattle, and this appears to have happened in ca. 1849. So whilst there might have been a few cattle grazing near Mt Barney in the 1840s, they would have been far outnumbered by sheep. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aardvarky (talk • contribs) 00:02, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Higher of the Two Peaks?[edit]

Currently the intro text states that the west peak is higher.

Google Maps terrain view (and their data is from the space shuttle orbiter or local sources where available) says that the east peak is around 1330m AMSL and the west peak about 1296m AMSL. Now this wouldn't be the first time Google Maps has been wrong, but unless someone can cite a credible source or an actual GPS receiver measurement for both peaks that says that the west peak is higher, I'd say we have to believe what Google Maps says. The east peak is higher (by only 30m).

I'm planning a walk up to both peaks within a few weeks, so I can measure the altitude at both if nobody else can find a source of the altitudes within that timeframe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.76.136.194 (talk) 05:25, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

geology reference[edit]

I wont add or rewrite anything at the moment but for those interested this reference from the Geological Society of Australia is excellent http://www.qld.gsa.org.au/Barneyv5.pdf Yendor of yinn (talk) 06:15, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]