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Do these qualify?[edit]

I'm not sure the countries of Nineteen Eighty-Four really qualify because these "countries" are comprised solely of real-world countries; they simply united or confederated. And I don't think Strong Badia really qualifies, either, since it was a field that Strong Bad simply declared that he ruled. It's as much of a "country" as my back yard. ;) - Furrykef 13:39, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Lands of Arda and Middle-earth[edit]

Well, only Middle Earth is there, lots to add. What is the status of , for example, Bree, Rivendell, The Iron Hills, Esgaroth, Farngorn, The Lonely mountain and Arnor?

And can Middle Earth really be called a continent? I don't think that's the intention.

Question[edit]

Can we also add fictional countries we made? - Revolutionary

Probably not. I'm thinking that No original research is the closest policy that's relevant. PaulStansifer 21:12, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Futurama[edit]

Can someone add the list of fictional contries refered to in the Olympic bits of the episode "Bend Her".... i really can't be stuffed.

The Simpsons[edit]

How about Rand McNally?... it's a fictional fictional country. And Itchy and Scratchy Land? And Australia (with the fictional flag)? Bonerland? an such and such?

Question[edit]

Could I link this article to the NationStates article? At last count, NationStates contained 124,934 fictional nations in 14,955 regions, a small portion of which have extremely detailed backgrounds. (See the NSwiki) --Wyrm 19:43, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Reorganization ?[edit]

I think it would be a good idea to look at breaking up this article along the lines of Fictional countries in literature, Fictional countries in film & television, Fictional countries in role-playing games etc, otherwise it will grow to become a huge mish-mash of content. --Centauri 23:26, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I agree. That would be the best way to go.--Mitsukai 4 July 2005 03:28 (UTC)
Films are often made from books, so Fictional countries in literature and Fictional countries in film & television will overlap. — Monedula 4 July 2005 06:09 (UTC)
I think there may be a problem with lack of category. There are Fictional Countries from literature and art but there's also what are known as Fictional States or "Fictional Republics". These Fictional States often have functional governments. Sometimes they issue passports and currency. I know of one that's recognized by the country of England (even though the entire Republic exists on an old British sea-tower). Maybe we need a new entry for this? A great source of information on Fictional States is in issue 18 of Cabinet Magazine.
You're talking about micronations. We already have an entire category of articles about them. The one I think you're referring to specifically is Sealand, and no, it's not "recognized" by England. --Centauri 04:48, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it's "recognized" by British courts as being outside their jurisdiction. —Tamfang 17:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Free Country, USA[edit]

Does this belong here? Just because it has the word "country" in it?

If it has "USA" after it, it's a state or a town. KingTT 17:06, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Osterland[edit]

I don't think that Osterland should be in this list. It's fictional, yes, but it's also clearly situated in a fantasy world and not on Earth.

"Semi-fictional countries"?[edit]

The list of semi-fictional countries seems to include a great deal of legitimate alternative names for completely real countries. Often these alternative names link to the same article as the name that's listed as real (via a redirect, usually). There are also pairs like Germany and Prussia which are/were both completely real and are simply not the same thing (although some will argue otherwise I suppose.) Other things just don't make much sense, at least with the way they're linked, like Romania being listed under Eastern Roman Empire. Either this is a list of semi-fictional countries or it's a list of different names used at some point correctly and/or incorrectly for real countries... It can't very well be both. Michael Sappir 01:53, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I raise this question again. They really should go in a separate article, possibly with a title such as "Real countries used in poetic or fictional contexts" I'm sure someone can find a better name. DGG 19:57, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bandrika/Vandreka[edit]

Yesterday I added Bandrika to the list, as it features prominently in The Lady Vanishes. Today it was re-listed under Vandreka, and the Bandrika entry removed. Personally I wouldn't mind if the Bandrika entry also remained; but as it was removed I was hoping to find out why. The name Bandrika is spoken several times throughout the film, and appears on the subtitle track of the DVD release - along with (whenever someone speaks the language) "(Speaks Bandrikan)". I'm not aware of any alternative versions of the film existing, but as far as I know the country is never referred to as Vandreka. If someone could correct me and point out where this alternative version is used, then I'll quite happily go along with it (so long as the Bandrika entry is also re-listed). Otherwise, I would request that Bandrika be reinstated. I could provide several soundclips and DVD grabs to prove that the word is definitely Bandrika. HowardBerry 23:13, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The entry of Bandrika/Vandreka was reinstated under Bandrika. I initially posted the entry under Vandreka because a Google search gives more results on this one. However, because of your evidence (DVD subtitle, audio and video clips) the main entry is now under Bandrika. Tavilis 10:34, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

List is way incomplete[edit]

There are at least 50 I can think of not on the list. Tobyk777 02:10, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Did you see theres a longer list here: List of fictional countries Astrokey44 14:11, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-fictional?[edit]

I'm confused as to the purpose of listing some of the "semi-ficitonal" countries. Especially the Byzantine Empire, and Empire of Trebizond, etc. As far as I'm aware, those were real entities, even if the name was applied at a later date. It seems like bad policy to have them listed alongside modern day political ideological constructs like Aztlan, or older misunderstandings of contemporary countries, like Cathay.Arvis21

Get rid of all the lists[edit]

Now that we have a separate 'list of...' article, I think all lists from this one should be moved away. Rationale: if this were ever to become a FAC, one of the 'what makes a good article' criteria is 'as little lists as possible'.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 12:40, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed country?[edit]

What's the proper name to describe countries that were seriously considered in real world, but never came into existance? Like United States of Greater Austria, Międzymorze, Polish-Lithuanian-Muscovite Commonwealth or Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian Commonwealth just to name the few? They are not fictional, yet common enough to deserve their own subtype and a category.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 12:40, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I am going ahead and creating the Category:Proposed countries.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 12:35, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

List of fictional subterranean countries[edit]

Since fictional subterranean countries are not included in the Article List of fictional countries I will create a new article "List of fictional subterranean countries". The List there will be a Copy of the List in this Article an some added countries. I am not registered so it will take a while until my article will be posted.

My proposal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/2006-03-21#List_of_fictional_subterranean_countries

Star Wars planets[edit]

Please add to the list the planets Handor, Naboo and Tatooine of the Star Wars epic movie anthology. You need to include those places part of the creative genius of George Lucas in development of movies, characters and fictional settings. The descriptions of fictional planets is excellent and special effects to make the planets come alive is good work. 207.200.116.136 19:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pokémon lands[edit]

I noticed Hoenn and Orre were on the list, but not Kanto, Johto, or Sinnoh. Is there a reason they're not on there, or can I add them? Kochdude388 00:18, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Or Fiore Kochdude388 00:20, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Now that I'm looking at it again, all the Pokémon regions (except Fiore and Sinnoh) are listed under "Not on Earth", while Hoenn and Orre are also mentioned in the "list of fictional countries". Kochdude388 00:31, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Phone numbers for fictional countries[edit]

The ITU should reserve a range of phone numbers for fictional countries (and no, 555 isn't going to cut it.) Or maybe a whole new country code. Scott Gall 12:10, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Country codes 210, 211, 214, 215, 217, 219 were allocated for North Africa (I don't know why) and never used; see List of country calling codes. —Tamfang 02:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List Of Marvel Comics Fictional Locations[edit]

Wikipedia tells me it doesn't want to edit articles at the moment, so this is more of a reminder then anything else;

Bartovia link leads to a Simpsons episode summary. Sarawak is a real country. Santo Angelo links to an article about a real city. Azania is real also but it's 'fiction' section mentions nothing of Marvel. Canaan is real and is also apparently a big, real, religous movement. Costa Brava is real. Maura leads to a dismbiguation page. Terra Verde links to a -musical- style. Tierra Verde links to Maritime Square, a shopping center.

That is all.

P.S. I deleted a huge political spam that had been sitting at the top of this page. Odd.

Lots42 02:45, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image copyright problem with Image:Middle-earth.jpg[edit]

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Questionable cases[edit]

Not needed/controversial... delete?

7h3 0N3 7h3 \/4Nl)4L5 Pl-l34R technobabble my screw ups 06:05, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

16 days passed... I'll assume so.
7h3 0N3 7h3 \/4Nl)4L5 Pl-l34R ( t / c ) 22:13, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge from Imaginary country[edit]

Is there supposed to be a difference between these two? If not, they should merge. Marnanel (talk) 02:57, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Closing this discussion as no consensus to merge. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:48, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ISO 3166[edit]

Looking at the page on ISO 3166, ZZ is not reserved for fictional countries: it's listed as user-assigned. (Alas, the code ZZ is not listed in the ISO OBP page.) The archived version of the FAQ talks about this. Perhaps the sentence would be better written as "The ISO 3166 country code ZZ is often used for fictional countries." The citation would be the ISO 3166 FAQ as archived by the Wayback Machine [1] --John (first post to any talk page, so I hope I haven't messed this up.) Jhmcmullen (talk) 14:01, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://web.archive.org/web/20070306080355/http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/10faq/frequently-asked-questions.html#Q09
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