Talk:Church of the Brethren

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WWII Figures?[edit]

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Despite the church's official peace stance there are many members of the Church of the Brethren that do not agree with pacifism. This was made particularly evident when, during the Second World War 80% of the men in the Church of the Brethren entered active duty in the military. Another 10% served as noncombatants in the military with only 10% taking Conscientious objector status.[citation needed]

Does anyone else think the figures look a little suspect? It' also totally unsourced. 68.113.47.94 (talk) 16:25, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


The numbers are based on Carl Bowman's research as reported in Brethren Society. The numbers refer to Brethren men of draft age during the Second World War. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.97.129.20 (talk) 01:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I came to the talk page for precisely this reason. which has seemingly been an unresolved problem for many years now. As the article reads, the statement is clearly incorrect; clearly 90% of Brethren men did not serve. Even the above claim that it refers only to men of draft age seems too great though perhaps conceivable. My hunch is that it was intended to say that, of those actually drafted, 80-90% served. It is supported by an offline citation. Anyone have access to this work, and can clarify? I have to assume that at some point an editor inadvertently garbled the information. --CAVincent (talk) 22:26, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Noticed that this has been left unresolved from almost 14 years now. I don't have access to the offline citation, so I am unable to fix/clarify the statement. As it stands, this statement is obviously wrong so I am removing it. CAVincent (talk) 23:12, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Covenant Brethren Church[edit]

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The CBC began with a vision cast in July 2019, as Church of the Brethren leaders from thirteen districts gathered in Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, to pray, discern, and discuss a new vision for Brethren in the 21st Century. A temporary executive board was called, and sub-teams were tasked with working at various aspects of the vision. Subsequent, steadily growing gatherings of Brethren from across the United States met in Winchester and Woodstock, Virginia and widely affirmed these developments.

On November 16, 2019, at the Antioch Church in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, the assembled group was first called The Covenant Brethren Church, and moved toward establishing an office in north-central West Virginia. A Statement of Faith and by-laws are in development for this new movement. The CBC has stated that it fully affirms biblical authority, the sanctity of marriage as expressed in Genesis 2 and affirmed by Jesus Christ in Matthew 19, the sanctity of human life from conception, and the historical New Testament ideals and practices held by the Brethren since 1708.

This section describes the origins, history and beliefs of the Covenant Brethren Church (CBC), an organization that appears by the above language as separate and distinct from the Church of the Brethren (COB). As such I think it merits a separate page. Some language describing the CBC as having originated from members of the COB and reasons for separation are worth including on the COB page, as other past separations are included. Agree/disagree? Link to the CBC website — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brother Willl (talkcontribs) 01:09, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]