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List of ice storms[edit]

Maybe we ought to split off a List of ice storms page, before this one gets out of control? --John Owens 15:46 Apr 7, 2003 (UTC)

Let's just exercise restraint. Where do ice storms typically happen? I had never heard off these until the Ang Lee film. --Tarquin 20:33, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)
This article isn't unmanageable in size. I don't expect this list to get huge fast, however, I do notice a common theme: All the storms (worthy of mention) cause weeklong power outages and property damage. We could do without the descriptions and just list locations and dates. --ke4roh 03:28, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)
There was a terrible ice storm in Quebec (Canada) which caused a total collapse of all power lines in a 100 km radius. More than 3.5 million people were in the dark for days; some were left without power for week. Power lines were crushed by the weight of accumulated ice. After the storm, cold weather caused further problems as dozens of emergency shelters were needed. Fortunately, the casualties were low and people showed a lot of generosity. In North-Eastern USA and in Eastern Canada (mostly Quebec province), this calamity is known as "THE Ice Storm". Hence, I have added a link in the disambiguation page. --Hugo Dufort 08:42, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I added it cuz I added it. --Whoiskennedy 06:18, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reqphoto[edit]

We need some photos of ice storms here. --Anthony5429 08:29, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Copy Editing[edit]

This article really needs tidying up. I think it is all factually correct but it reads poorly. Some copy editing would be useful. Thanks to folks for getting the article going but perhaps a little style improvement would help it read better? --mgaved (talk) 16:01, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ice storm damage photos[edit]

There are a few online photos that I think should be added to this article to make it more accurate with my recent edits. One is located at http://en.chinagate.com.cn/features/snow/2008-01/29/content_9608324.htm It contains a photo of an electricity pylon brought down by an ice storm, and I really don't know how to put it on the Ice Storm article. Another photo not yet posted on the main article that would go along well with my recent edits can also be found here; http://www.canadianunderwriter.ca/issues/ViewPhoto.asp?pid=3028&stype=archive Darthvader1 (talk) 23:34, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

More pics of interest can be found here; http://www.weather.com/outlook/photo/read/weather/3B586626-91B5-11DD-ADD8-F4BCE0AE6048?from=photos_search_results and here; http://www.theguardian.pe.ca/index.cfm?sid=104435&sc=98 Note the amount of ice accumulation on the wires, and also note that there are no tree branches on the downed wires; just the weight of the ice itself did that. Also note the snapped off wooden utility pole to the left hand side of the second picture. Darthvader1 (talk) 01:33, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Formation Graph[edit]

A graph showing the formation of different kinds of precipitate as a function of height and temperature.

I made this graph based on two figures in one of the references. Is it good enough to insert in the article? Tevonic (talk) 03:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Looks good to me. Pi zero (talk) 13:30, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"During the unusually severe winter of 2009–2010 in the United Kingdom, heavy snow had fallen over much of the country in late December and early January. By the second week of January, many of the roads and pavements had been cleared by local councils due to the use of rock salt gritting. However, during the early hours of 12 January, a wet front[clarification needed] moved across the country, causing freezing rain and heavy ice glaze, particularly in the South and West Yorkshire areas of Northern England (crucially, this rainfall had stopped before first light). When the local population prepared to set out for work and school, they saw from their windows what appeared to be clear roads and pavements but were in fact treacherous sheets of black ice. Cars and buses almost immediately encounted extreme difficulty, and emergency services were called to dozens of accidents. Pedestrians in the village of Holmfirth found the only safe way to proceed was to crawl on all fours.[16] Accident and emergency units at hospitals in the Sheffield, Rotherham, and Barnsley areas found themselves inundated by people with broken bones, fractures, and sprains, and many schools were closed as it was judged unsafe for pupils to attempt to make their way there."

The above quoted article must have been written by a Brit. So much whining and un-necessary details about one cold night. Many countries experience such weather throughout the winter. Your English buses stop working due to not being fitted with winter tires. Schools as usual shut down when the water freezes over, and your spoiled kids "can't make it to school", yet go out to play with snow instead. This should definitely be corrected. It is acceptable for general British public, but Wikipedia is a global source of information and therefore it should not be biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.10.252 (talk) 17:47, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Twain On The Ice-Storm[edit]

Mark Twain wrote a fantastic description of an ice storm in Chapter 59 of Following The Equator (http://www.online-literature.com/twain/following-the-equator/59/). After describing the details of the Taj Mahal, he concludes "the Taj is man's ice-storm".

The quote: The weather clears, toward dawn, and leaves a brisk pure atmosphere and asky without a shred of cloud in it--and everything is still, there is nota breath of wind. The dawn breaks and spreads, the news of the storm goes about the house, and the little and the big, in wraps and blankets,flock to the window and press together there, and gaze intently out upon the great white ghost in the grounds, and nobody says a word, nobody stirs. All are waiting; they know what is coming, and they are waiting waiting for the miracle. The minutes drift on and on and on, with not a sound but the ticking of the clock; at last the sun fires a sudden sheaf of rays into the ghostly tree and turns it into a white splendor of glittering diamonds. Everybody catches his breath, and feels a swelling in his throat and a moisture in his eyes-but waits again; for he knows what is coming; there is more yet. The sun climbs higher, and still higher, flooding the tree from its loftiest spread of branches to its lowest, turning it to a glory of white fire; then in a moment, without warning, comes the great miracle, the supreme miracle, the miracle without its fellow in the earth; a gust of wind sets every branch and twig to swaying, and in an instant turns the whole white tree into a spouting and spraying explosion of flashing gems of every conceivable color; and there it stands and sways this way and that, flash! flash! flash! a dancing and glancing world of rubies, emeralds, diamonds, sapphires, the most radiant spectacle, the most blinding spectacle, the divinest, the most exquisite, the most intoxicating vision of fire and color and intolerable and unimaginable splendor that ever any eye has rested upon in this world, or will ever rest upon outside of the gates of heaven. By, all my senses, all my faculties, I know that the ice storm is Nature's supremest achievement in the domain of the superb and the beautiful; and by my reason, at least, I know that the Taj is man's ice-storm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.253.139.80 (talk) 16:50, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sap coloration?[edit]

Could anybody explain why "sap coloration" is relevant to an article about Ice storms? The Wikilink on Sap just points to the article, where a search on "coloration" turns up nothing. The addition of the term here seems to have been in good faith, but this Ice storm article appears totally opaque about its relevance to the main subject. Reify-tech (talk) 14:52, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs a global perspective[edit]

The article seems to be written almost entirely from a U.S. perspective, and needs a substantial rewrite if it is to properly cover the topic. Not only does the text assume a U.S. perspective from the start, but it includes a large table of 'Tree sensitivity to sap coloration and resistance to crown damage from an ice storm' which would seem to me to be undue even in a country-specific article - in a global article it is completely inappropriate, given that the tree species are almost all native to north America. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:37, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

While I am not at all opposed to expanding the coverage of this kind of article, tree damage is one of the main issues with ice storms, whether those ice storm occur in areas where trees are used for maple syrup production or fruit production. Guy1890 (talk) 19:00, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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