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"Wesley betrays his friends and kidnaps Connor, and delivers the baby to Angel's sworn enemy, Holtz,..."[edit]

This isn't exactly what happened, as elaborated on further down in the article. It may seem like a small detail but it had significant implications in the show, and also it makes the article internally consistent (and a bit judgmental). Should it be amended somehow to be more accurate? Maybe, "Wesley lies to his friends and kidnaps Connor, which leads to the baby being kidnapped by Angel's sworn enemy, Holtz,..." 220.233.78.52 (talk) 04:25, 1 March 2012 (UTC) yesiamawesleyfan[reply]

redirect weirdness[edit]

Wesley Wyndam-Price doesn't work for me (I tried to add it to Why We Fight (Angel episode)) but Wesley Wyndham-Price redirects here. What gives? —Tamfang 06:51, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, I didn't notice the -y- in Pryce. —Tamfang 06:51, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cordelia[edit]

Does Cordelia Chase really count as a romantic relationship? They were attracted to each other, and then there was that excrutiating kiss, but they were never a couple. --Stevefarrell 10:49, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is (and this regards all the character articles), the term 'romantic relationships' is very subjective and vulnerable to POV. What does 'romantic' mean? At the moment many character articles seem to be using this section to link pairings that were connected by romantic crushes, lustful feelings, intimate relations, and/or actual coupleage.-- Paxomen 15:45, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A romantic relationship generally means that you're part of a couple, and you love each other. In Wesley's case, that definitely includes Fred (even if it did only last an episode) and, possibly, Virginia and Lilah. But the 'romantic relationships' section is prone to abuse by militant 'shippers. Terming it 'Love Interests' would make a lot more sense, since then you could include crushes and one night stands. --Stevefarrell 14:31, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

While we're on the subject, I changed the wording on the description of his relationship with Illyria. "Not a real relationship" seemed like a bizarre statement to make; they had a connection. I changed "real" to "romantic." Alpha5099 06:15, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request for comment[edit]

(responding to RfC) I can tell that those who have worked on the article, really like the character. :) However, speaking as someone who doesn't watch the show, I have to say that I found the article somewhat confusing. It currently is very much a "written by fans, for fans" piece, and I'd recommend reworking it so that its targeted towards a general audience, and emphasizes how this character is perceived in non-fan culture. Specific suggestions: Include more dates to indicate when things happened. Condense the plot summary section from its current length of 3,500 words, to 500-1000 words. Find other references than just the Buffy fan magazines. Has this character ever been mentioned in mainstream press? If so, list some sources. Is there an action figure? Novels, comic books? Does the character show up anywhere else than just the show? If so, compare and contrast in the plot summary, how the character is treated in the different media. If not, this article should be condensed even further, as there's no "cultural impact." For more info, see WP:FICTION and WP:CRUFT. Checking out how the Star Wars character articles handle it is also a good idea. Good luck, El on ka 06:05, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Would anyone mind if I separated the "Character development" section into a "Biography" and "Writing & acting" section? I'm asking because I think it was already like that, and somebody then merged the two sections together (a vague memory of something mentioned on another talk page). It's just I think that the article is overwhelmingly long; I'm a huge fan of the show and even I couldn't be bothered reading through it. Just wanted to ask, since there's obviously a huge Wes fan out there who wrote this page. Paul730 12:37, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Name Spelling[edit]

It is actually spelled "Wesley Wyndam-Price". That is, an "I" instead of a "Y" in "Price". —Preceding unsigned comment added by OLTL2002 (talk • contribs) 02:54, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No... it's not. Kusonaga (talk) 20:14, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Somebody needs to go back to 1st Grade, because the last time I checked, Price was spelled with an "I". Maybe you should quit wishing you know everything and go watch some of the special features. Alexis Denisof's character is credited as "Wesley Wyndam-Price". I don't think that the ones who wrote for the character would lie, they did afterall create Wesley. So how about you shut your big mouth, because face it, other people know things, too.

OLTL2002, please read Wikipedia:No personal attacks. You can discuss things without getting aggressive and insulting other editors. Do we have a source for Wesley's surname? It's possible it's spelled both ways, even by the show's writers. It was spelled Wyndham-Price in After the Fall, that may be a mistake. Paul 730 23:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize if I sounded a little agressive. However, not every piece of information is found on the web. I have the complete series on DVD, and in one of the "Featurettes" from Season 3, it is spelled "Wesley Wyndam-Price".

Could you please indent your comments using a colon ( : ) or an asterisk ( * ), simply using spaces messes up the talk page and I have to fix it. By sources, I meant any sources, not just online ones. The DVD is a source. Like I said, the writers could spell it both ways by mistake, and one DVD featurette is hardly conclusive if it's spelled differently elsewhere. On Wikipedia, we use their common name as the title of the article; what they are known best as. While Google tests aren't definitive, for something like finding out the most common spelling of a name, I think we can use it. Let's see, Googling the different spellings turns up these results:

Wesley Wyndam-Pryce - 40, 400

Wesley Wyndam-Price - 1, 100

Wesley Wyndham-Price - 827

I think the current title is correct. We could mention the alternate spellings in the lead however, citing the comic and the DVD featurette as examples. Paul 730 14:46, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll ignore the insults slung my way. I also have the complete series on DVD, for the record. Now, the BBC notes him as 'Wyndam-Pryce', a pretty official site, I dare say. Besides that, the first season DVD set contains biographies of the characters, and in them he's quite clearly named 'Wesley Wyndam-Pryce'. Subtitles also refer to him with the name 'Pryce' rather than 'Price'. Names don't need to adhere to certain spellings. Kusonaga (talk) 18:15, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My copy of the first season only has the biographies for the main stars of season 1. There fore, it doesn't have Wesley on there.

But... Wesley is a main star. Longer than Doyle anyway. He is in after episode 10, for the rest of the season. Third disc, special features, cast biographies, Alexis Denisof. Kusonaga (talk) 09:55, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I'm sorry. You must be talking about Angel? I was talking about the Season 1 DVD of Buffy. Now I understand, my mistake.

Yes, I meant Angel. Kusonaga (talk) 05:30, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the alternate spellings to the lead, with citations to where they are used. Does that suit everyone? Paul 730 04:19, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More info should you need it: I have a copy of one of IDW's script books, and it's "Wyndam-Price" the couple of times it's mentioned. The material from the old Buffy Shooting Script site, transcribed from genuine scripts, had a mixture of "Price" and "Pryce", though that's not something we can cite. --Nalvage (talk) 15:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I take it we can use the scripts as shown on the DVD's can be used though? They should provide some more answers. Kusonaga (talk) 20:34, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I still think that "Wyndam-Pryce" should still be the name of the article since it's the most commonly used spelling. A script would be a better source for "Wyndam-Price" than a DVD featurette however. Paul 730 21:09, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Script for "Five by Five" calls him 'Wesley Wyndam-Pryce'. Kusonaga (talk) 07:44, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question - Why have you referenced both 'alternate' spellings but not your preferred spelling? It simply makes your preferred one look wrong, given the solid sources for the other two. Perhaps the 'main' spelling needs a citation?

Last Appearance[edit]

I modified the "Last Appearance" section of the infobox before I realized that it was deleted earlier. I'm curious what the rationale was for removing it; I left it in for now because other Buffy-related articles at the moment follow the format of both having a character's first and last appearances mentioned, but if the consensus is that the latter information shouldn't be included, then feel free to remove it. Apollo Gilgamesh (talk) 18:36, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Powers[edit]

I don't see how Wesley has "genius-level intellect." On no occasion has he demonstrated anything that warrant that "power" being attributed to him. So I removed it.The Randomtasker (talk) 00:34, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]