Talk:List of reptilian humanoids

Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2018

Please add {{Refimprove}} on top of this page. Shumam9 (talk) 23:58, 2 January 2018 (UTC) Eulalefty sock

Not done: As this is a list page, the requirements for citations are moot. List pages incorporate lists of items which a user then selects to go to. It is on these individual pages, where the references reside. Regards, Spintendo ᔦᔭ 14:24, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Image

This image is completely unencyclopaedic: File:Dinosauroid.jpg. It's a bad picture of a bad model that bears no relationship to anything real. It needs to go. Guy (Help!) 15:39, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

@JzG: You say it "bears no relationship to anything real." I am confused by this. Are you meaning to imply that there are real reptilian humanoids out there somewhere for us to include images of, or are you just saying we should not have any images at all, since reptilian humanoids do not really exist? I am assuming you mean the latter, since the former is, frankly, ridiculous. I am not really a fan of the image personally, but I am opposed to a policy that we should only include images of things that are real in our articles, since I think that imaginative representations should be included if they improve the article's encyclopedic usefulness. --Katolophyromai (talk) 15:48, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

I mean that it is a cheap mock up of something that doesn't exist. It's not a movie prop, not even a Doctor Who two-arms-two-legs-and-a-head monster, it is nothing. Guy (Help!) 16:19, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

@JzG:, I agree that the image should be removed or at least moved down to a more appropriate section. I think the image is poor quality and may emphasizes a fringe minority over the bigger picture. Most entities in this category fall somewhere around nāga, typhon, or any number of other cultural representations over stuff like the "dinosauroid" or reptilians. :bloodofox: (talk) 16:10, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

It's a list of things that aren't real, so I don't know if that constitutes an argument against the image. It, at least, is a model in a museum based on one of those not real things. Still, this is list of things that aren't real, so it's not apparent that it needs an image at all - there's not one image that represents everything on the list, so why should one get a special place at the beginning of the article? If anyone wants images, they can find them on the individual pages linked to. --tronvillain (talk) 16:13, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Man, is that sculpture not as good as the Canadian one.--tronvillain (talk) 16:20, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello world! 16:30, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

It's actually a list that freely mixes things that are purely imaginary, things that are claimed to be real but aren't, and things that exist only in fiction (e.g. movie monsters). In short, it is one of the worst pieces of fancruft I have seen in recent years. Guy (Help!) 16:20, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

The only things claimed to be real but aren't that I see are reptilians and lemurians. Or are you counting the folk tales too? Man, some of those need to be rewritten to be less fringe. Regardless, I don't think one of them needs to be singled out as "the" image for the list. --tronvillain (talk) 16:27, 9 May 2018 (UTC); edited 16:36, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Flatwoods monster

Wait, why is the Flatwoods monster even on this list? Purely based on the March 10, 2010 MonsterQuest episode referring to and portraying it as a "Lizard Monster"? Nothing else on the page appears to support that. --tronvillain (talk) 16:47, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, that's a good question. Looks like this list needs a closer look. :bloodofox: (talk) 16:55, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Really, the whole list is just a complete mess. I do not have time to rewrite it, but it really needs to be rewritten. The current version does not contain a single citation whatsoever, which is seriously problematic for obvious reasons. --Katolophyromai (talk) 16:57, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

If only I had a nickel for every time I've said that to myself while browsing folklore-related articles on Wikipedia... :bloodofox: (talk) 17:06, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Everybody wants to complain; everybody wants to delete. What no one wants to do is put any frigging effort in. Serendi^podous 19:52, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

I just assume that, like myself, everyone here works on three to four different articles at one time and eventually gets around to what they can, when they can here. Personally,I appreciate people who take the time to check in on stuff outside of that, like this list. There's only so much time to go around, after all. :bloodofox: (talk) 20:32, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

I've looked, and I can't find any reports referring to it as a lizard or reptilian, other than it being green.--20:35, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

This is NOT a list of fictional reptilian humanoids!

Some are fictions, some are legendary, some even from religion. Some are scientific speculation. This is one of the most destructive moves I've seen in a long time. Serendi^podous 16:28, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Well, "scientific speculation" is essentially science fiction without bothering to write a narrative, but yes, creatures from myth and folklore aren't accurately described as fictional.--tronvillain (talk) 17:00, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Nonexistant? Fictional and legendary? Either that or the list should be empty, because there are no reptilian humanoids. --Guy Macon (talk) 18:53, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

The word "fiction" generally implies a literary nature; it normally means that the noun it is describing is the invention of a particular, known author. Folklore, by definition, only happens when many different storytellers have contributed to the concept, and it is therefore essentially a product of society as a whole, rather than just one person. If we keep the current title of "List of fictional reptilian humanoids," we should remove the ones from folklore, since they technically are not "fiction" in the literary sense. On the other hand, we can also change the title to something better suited to the items the list currently contains. --Katolophyromai (talk) 19:35, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Since there are no real reptilian humanoids, I don't really see why. What further clarification is required? Serendi^podous 19:55, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

@Serendipodous: There seems to have been some confusion. I was objecting to the title "List of fictional reptilian humanoids," which I thought was still the title of this article, but it appears someone has already moved it back to the original title of "List of reptilian humanoids" without me realizing it. --Katolophyromai (talk) 20:11, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I reverted it pending the outcome of this discussion.--tronvillain (talk) 20:20, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

For the record, I have no objection to the revert. --Guy Macon (talk) 21:11, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

List of nonexistent reptilian humanoids? --Guy Macon (talk) 21:14, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

@Guy Macon: Sorry, but I think I am going to have to agree with Serendipodous; since reptilian humanoids do not really exist, it is not necessary to specify that this article is about "nonexistent" ones, since that would be overly redundant. --Katolophyromai (talk) 21:22, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm all for avoiding promotion of fringe theories on Wikipedia, but it seems unnecessary to specify that. We don't have "list of nonexistent Roman deities" or "list of fictional Star Wars characters." --tronvillain (talk) 21:29, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 15 July 2019

In the first sentence, the word "Fictional" requires citation Mauldeth65 (talk) 13:47, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. I think it's unnecessary to cite that humanoids are fictional. aboideau^talk 13:57, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

George W. Bush

I've always heard Bush's name associated with reptilian humanoids. 108.200.234.93 (talk) 08:18, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Reptilian conspiracy theory. Serendi^podous 12:09, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Serpentine

Ninjago has an important species called Serpentine, they should be added. FrostFormling (talk) 22:59, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

The TBS series People of Earth has significant reptilian characters that should be added, Kurt and Jonathan Walsh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:281:CF7F:9410:4D96:B77B:7B07:E27 (talk) 03:00, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Reptilians

Whoever said humanoid Reptilians are not real do not live in the real world. 174.247.208.118 (talk) 22:42, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

proof of Extra Terrestrial existence

United States has declassified documents that include proof of Extra Terrestrial existence as well as evidence that there are species other that humans that inhabit the Earth. Which includes species that are human in appearance but not from Earth. Life in the Universe is the RULE not the exception, humans are programmed to be self centered. If you still think that earth is the only random planet with human life thriving on it is like saying Venus isn’t a Vacation planet for the Illuminati! I mean everyone knows that’s where the Reptiles go on vacation! It’s primarily a water planet with islands, very tropical. Venus is another earth, Cabal invaded and killed the inhabitants, or most of them. What was left of the Venusians have bred into the current human society that exists there. They’ve 2601:8C0:703:8A0:CC93:ACA5:5D4:D825 (talk) 02:51, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Grammar

Some of the grammar and formatting in the listings (colons vs. no colons and more formatting differences) differs from each other inconsistently. What's the proper way to write this article? GoutComplex (talk) 01:30, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Request to include Reptyl in section Marvel

The character Reptyl from Marvel Comics seems worthy of inclusion in that section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:600:8781:13B0:BCAA:50FF:26E8:19 (talk) 05:53, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Donald Trump - Reptiloid

This is true and been witnessed by many. TruthSpeaksVolumes (talk) 00:55, 4 October 2023 (UTC)