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Origin Of Six Division(Kapikulu) Spahis[edit]

I am Turkish and for a long time I believed what this wiki article said about the origins of six division sipahi. That they were initially of devşirme origin similiar to other Kapikulu units such as janissaries but later on during the reign of Mehmet II due to hardships of teaching riding to Balkan kids, it was legalized to recruit Turkmen kids who already naturally knew how to ride due to their nomadic lifestyle. But there is this very big online encyclopedia on islam and history in Turkey called TDV Islam Encyclopedia and it states they were always recruited among janissaries and artillerymen(who were also converts). Only Turks could be the children of important commanders and statesmen in the founding days of the empire. https://islamansiklopedisi.org.tr/sipahi Unfortunately it is only in Turkish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ardabas34 (talkcontribs) 18:04, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Strictly Turkic ethnic origin for Sipahis? Inconsistency with other article and other issues[edit]

In this article it is referred that sipahis were strictly Turkic. However, the article regarding the Flag of Greece, in the Ottoman Period section refers to Christian Sipahi regiments flying a flag with the images of St. George and a cross. The contents of Kanunname-i Sipahi regarding the Sipahi origins need a reference I believe, if it could be found online that would be great. Moreover, classification of peoples according to ethnic origin for the period under consideration seems dubious to me. Especially for the Ottoman Empire which used the millet system. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhomaios (talkcontribs) 19:40, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I am aware there were Christian Sipahis recruited from over most of the Balkans until the 17th C. The Greek Sipahis flew their own Christian flag primarily or only within the autonomous areas such Mani or Zagori. Christian landowners could serve, or even were obliged to serve, as Sipahi until sometime in the 17th C. There are references to the obligations of the Christian landowners of Epirus to serve in the Ottoman Sipahi cavalry in surviving excerpts of the so-called Κουβαρᾶς of the Philanthropinon Monastery at Ioannina, a collection of manuscripts lost in the fire of 1820 that destroyed Ioannina. The recruitment of Christian Sipahi ended around 1635 by a firman. If anyone has better information, please add it to the appropriate section, which I have ammended.Skamnelis (talk) 02:42, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

== Italian spahi s

==Not a Sipahi unit

Sipahis make appearance as a unit in the video game Age of Empires IV as well[edit]

Could be added to the article - see [1]https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Sipahi_(Age_of_Empires_IV) from the game's wiki 93.157.116.14 (talk) 18:50, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]