Talk:Liang Qichao

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0101TRANc,may I ask you how to add a photo on the page? I tried a lot of times and the system show that"upload successful",but the photo still doesn't appear on the page,which upsets me a lot.

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If it says "upload successful," then it should work. Are you sure you are using the right file name when you try to edit the page to add it? The file name is also case-sensitive. Have you looked at Wikipedia's page on how to add images? It's at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editing_FAQ#How_can_I_put_pictures_on_my_pages.3F

Hope that helps! :) 0101Tranc

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Thank you!You see, I have successfully added some photos today :)

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You're welcome! Glad it worked. I like the photos!!! =) 0101Tranc

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For the photos, I think maybe all of them should be credited/cited... I cited the sources for the ones I put up so maybe we can do that for the others too.

I put the caption back on the portrait pic because it disappeared after it got enlarged. I kept the size that it got enlarged to because I didn't think I had a good reason to change its size so I just added the caption, but I did kind of like the smaller size for the portrait more....:) 0101TRANc 15:09, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)0101Tranc

I think this article has the potential to become featured if you guys keep up the good work. -spencer195 03:58, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

To the person that added the section on Liang's fiction writings - Are you sure those novels are fictions? The titles sound non-fiction so I just wanted to make sure. :) 0101TRANc 19:54, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)0101Tranc

Spencer195- do you think it'd be a good idea for us to nominate it yet? =D 0101TRANc 19:57, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)0101Tranc

I think the article could still use some more cleaning, expansion, and fact-checking before it's nominated. On Monday I will go to the library and take out some books on Liang Qichao to see if I can expand the article some more too. Other improvements we could make are:

Image:LiangQichaoMemorial.jpg has no copyright information. See Wikipedia:Copyrights.
Expand the intro section
Adding some pictures of his newspapers (if we can find them)
Explain the significance of his quote "Freedom means freedom for the group, not freedom for the individual. ...".

-spencer195 22:11, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Why did he call it Yinbingshi???[edit]

Somebody please find out why Liang called his collection of works Yinbingshi and called himself the host! I am dying of curiousity! make sure your graphics compliment your text (watch out for placement!) keep up the good work. rewrite, edit, rewrite!(JMSC0101-TA) Lfcho 14:18, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

It's drawn from a quote from the Zhuangzi: 今吾朝受命而夕饮冰，吾其内热与. The gist is because I have been ordered to serve the nation I must drink ice to cool the heat that my worry for people inspires. Liang is signalling his concern for the country and people. I was tempted to delete the phrase claiming his epithet "literally" means "host" (sic) of the Yinbing House because it doesn't - "Master of the Ice-Drinking Studio" would be better but in any case there's really no such thing as a "literal" translation of this sort of allusion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.115.189.185 (talk) 13:04, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone please tell me what this means:[edit]

"After failing to pass the examination for advocating reform in his paper..."

So his examination was a paper about reform? I'm confused...it'd be great if someone could clarify..thanks!! 0101TRANc 17:07, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)0101Tranc

Under contributions to journalism, I am also not sure what this means: "He became the powerful modern form of the political and cultural journalist by writing new forms of periodical journals." 0101TRANc0101Tranc

Added the section "Liang and The Elements of Journalism"[edit]

Yeah, I know its a bit late to add new material...but I felt that bringing in Kovach's Elements of Journalism helps readers of the article gain a better understanding of what kind of journalist Liang was. I feel that it also helps put into context how Liang's journalistic works were indeed revolutionary and how he helped to raise the bar for journalists to follow. Please feel free to edit or even remove if you see fit. ~0101YIPd

PS somehow when I added this section I got logged out without notification, so I'm "218.103.197.186: in case anyone was wondering.

Advice about the new section "Liang and The Elements of Journalism"[edit]

I also heard that there is similar section related with The Elements of Journalism in other groups. But, our tutor seems not prefer such kind of 'analysis'. I know, 0101YIPd, you made a great efforts for the section. But, I still hope you can consider what I say. Maybe, it would be better to cut this section out or cut it shorter?

-well it's not just my section anymore, it seems to have merged with an earlier section. I don't mind removing it tho, if you all feel that it's inappropriate. ~0101YIPd

Hey y'all. I think the new section is good because initially, under "Commitment to Journalistic Principles," we basically talked about the same things but used quotes that represented Liang's ideals but didn't strongly back them up with evidence. So, that's why I merged the two sections and added YIPd's "evidence" to complement things we previously had in "Commitment to Journalistic Principles." ~~0101Tranc

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:28, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Quote:The reforms that were sponsored by the imperial government were too little and too late. A drastic change was necessary. The idea of overthrowing the Manchus was suggested by Liang Ch'i-ch'ao in his concept of hsin min (new people). Publishing a magazine in Japan, where he had fled after the Hundred Days, Liang called for the Chinese people to renew themselves and also indicated that the Chinese nation was distinct and separate from the ruling dynasty of the Manchus. Although he did not advocate overthrowing the dynasty, the message was quickly picked up by the more radical leaders who were already leaning toward revolution.Unquoted. I think the above comment should be included.http://acc6.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~phalsall/texts/chinhist.html Arilang1234 (talk) 21:44, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Issue and descendants[edit]

I don't think it is relevant to mention all his grandsons, the wifes of his sons... What do you think about this ? --ChiuTaitai (talk) 21:34, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cantonese and Mandarin[edit]

Liang Qichao and his issues with Cantonese and Mandarin.

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http://books.google.com/books?ei=TRCmTvqWGqrj0QGbxa2HDg&ct=result&id=wg1xAAAAMAAJ&dq=jiang+huai+cantonese+mandarin+speak+emperor&q=cantonese

Rajmaan (talk) 23:30, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Jinshi[edit]

The infox says that he had jinshi level education, but the text says he actually failed the exam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.0.156.165 (talk) 09:34, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To add to article[edit]

To add to this article: some information about Liang's 1902 utopian novel The Future of New China, which envisioned China as a technologically advanced, democratic superpower in 1962. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 06:35, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(1 year later) To add to this article: some information about Liang's 1902 utopian novel The Future of New China, which envisioned China as a technologically advanced, democratic superpower in 1962. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 03:57, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Add three sentences in the article[edit]

In the article, I add three sentences. In the lead, I emphasize Liang Qichao’s thought had influence in Modern China. In the section of As a journalist, I add he had published works in New Youth, and I think this was important to show his experience as a journalist. In the section of Educator, I add his views and ways of education. I think it can show his ideas in different aspect. User:Zeqin/Liang_Qichao Zeqin (talk) 04:36, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]