Talk:Beat (King Crimson album)

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Proposed merge[edit]

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I agree with merge. So consensus is for merge. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 16:39, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Sartori in Tangier and Neal and Jack and Me articles are very short stubs and, given their current state, might as well be merged and redirected to this article. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 14:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree 100%. SethTisue (talk) 17:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Sartori?[edit]

--79.10.125.39 (talk) 11:39, 10 August 2017 (UTC)The original Japanese word is "satori" and "sartori" is impossible. Where the error comes from and how it had origins since Kerouac's book is named "Satori in Paris"? What is the original name of the song?[reply]

The name of the song is "Sartori in Tangier". My guess is they just misspelled it. The lyrics to "Neal and Jack and Me" contain the following words:

I am a 1952 starlite coupe...
En route ... les Souterrains
Des visions du Cody ... Sartori a Paris ...
Strange spaghetti in this solemn city ...

Question: Were Kerouac's books translated into French? If so, is Belew quoting the actual titles of the French versions? Or is Belew simply translating the English titles into French himself? If the former, is it possible that the R in "Sartori" arises from the title of the French book itself? If the latter, it seems silly for the first bullet in this article to link to the books under their (alleged) French titles. — Lawrence King ^(talk) 19:31, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Kerouac's books were translated into French. The translation of On the road appeared under the title Sur la route, not En route. Likewise Visions of Cody appeared under the title Visions de Cody, not Des visions du Cody.

So it looks like someone translated the titles incorrectly. Satori in Paris appeared as Satori à Paris; the R in sartori must be an error. Muijz (talk) 14:58, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, the article says: Additionally, Belew claims he was "pompted by a note saying 'I'm wheels, I am moving wheels' by Fripp," who suggested Beat writings become the "lyrical underpinning" of the album after he saw Belew "reading Keuroac."

Is Keuroac a spelling error in the original, or in the article? Muijz (talk) 15:07, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]