Talk:Francis Johnson (composer)

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Composer project review[edit]

I've reviewed this article as part of the Composers project review of its B-class articles. This article was raised to B by a bot, because the Biography project rating was B. I find this rating is not deserved -- the article is missing some things expected of biographies, and other things expected of composer biographies. My full review is on the comments page; questions and comments should be left here or on my talk page. Magic♪piano 13:54, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Survival of his music?[edit]

I own a CD called "The Music of Francis Johnson" (Music Masters Jazz, 1994). It includes compositions purported to be Johnson's as well as those of some of his contemporaries. Most of the music could be described as band music, performed on the instruments of the era. Therefore I was surprised to see in the article the claim that none of his music survives except piano scores. Can anyone provide any illumination?Carlaclaws (talk) 16:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

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==Composers Project Assessment of Francis Johnson (composer): 2009-02-3==

This is an assessment of article Francis Johnson (composer) by a member of the Composers project, according to its assessment criteria. This review was done by Magicpiano.

If an article is well-cited, the reviewer is assuming that the article reflects reasonably current scholarship, and deficiencies in the historical record that are documented in a particular area will be appropriately scored. If insufficient inline citations are present, the reviewer will assume that deficiencies in that area may be cured, and that area may be scored down.

Adherence to overall Wikipedia standards (WP:MOS, WP:WIAGA, WP:WIAFA) are the reviewer's opinion, and are not a substitute for the Wikipedia's processes for awarding Good Article or Featured Article status.

===Origins/family background/studies=== Does the article reflect what is known about the composer's background and childhood? If s/he received musical training as a child, who from, is the experience and nature of the early teachers' influences described?

  • No family background. (If there is no documentary evidence, this should be stated, and sourced.)

===Early career=== Does the article indicate when s/he started composing, discuss early style, success/failure? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed?

  • ok

===Mature career=== Does the article discuss his/her adult life and composition history? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed?

  • ok, but we don't know the circumstances of his death.

===List(s) of works=== Are lists of the composer's works in WP, linked from this article? If there are special catalogs (e.g. Köchel for Mozart, Hoboken for Haydn), are they used? If the composer has written more than 20-30 works, any exhaustive listing should be placed in a separate article.

  • No list of (known/surviving) works.

===Critical appreciation=== Does the article discuss his/her style, reception by critics and the public (both during his/her life, and over time)?

  • Contemporary reaction is good; historical view is lacking. How was his music exposed/received in the 20th century?

===Illustrations and sound clips=== Does the article contain images of its subject, birthplace, gravesite or other memorials, important residences, manuscript pages, museums, etc? Does it contain samples of the composer's work (as composer and/or performer, if appropriate)? (Note that since many 20th-century works are copyrighted, it may not be possible to acquire more than brief fair use samples of those works, but efforts should be made to do so.) If an article is of high enough quality, do its images and media comply with image use policy and non-free content policy? (Adherence to these is needed for Good Article or Featured Article consideration, and is apparently a common reason for nominations being quick-failed.)

  • No images or sound.

===References, sources and bibliography=== Does the article contain a suitable number of references? Does it contain sufficient inline citations? (For an article to pass Good Article nomination, every paragraph possibly excepting those in the lead, and every direct quotation, should have at least one footnote.) If appropriate, does it include Further Reading or Bibliography beyond the cited references?

  • Article lists only a single source; is tagged for citations.

===Structure and compliance with WP:MOS=== Does the article comply with Wikipedia style and layout guidelines, especially WP:MOS, WP:LEAD, WP:LAYOUT, and possibly WP:SIZE? (Article length is not generally significant, although Featured Articles Candidates may be questioned for excessive length.)

  • Footer needs organization.

===Things that may be necessary to pass a Good Article review===

  • Article requires more inline citations (WP:CITE)
  • Article footer material needs organization (WP:LAYOUT)
  • Article needs (more) images and/or other media (MOS:IMAGE)
  • Article has cleanup/fact tags.

===Summary=== This is a decent, but very basic biography. It is missing a number of things that I would expect of a typical 18th-19th century composer biography. Documentation about his early life and his death are not provided, and no statements are made about a lack of documentable facts. While I would not be surprised to find that these facts have not been documented in any way, I would expect WP to cite a suitable authority saying this documentation does not appear to exist. It is also expected to list the works of a composer; if works are mentioned in the documentary record but have not been found, it is ok to list known or surviving works.

Article is Start-class due to factual gaps. Magic♪piano 13:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 14:36, 20 June 2010 (UTC). Substituted at 15:27, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Music in History Intersectionality and Music[edit]

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 17 January 2023 and 9 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Tzhang0.0 (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Tzhang0.0 (talk) 03:18, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]