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US and Canada[edit]

Changed to "USA", since there was no mention of Canada in the section.156.34.38.163 (talk) 22:32, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD[edit]

On 27 July 2004, this article was proposed for deletion. The discussion has been archived at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Offal. Rossami 21:14, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Is it vitamin A in polar bear livers? I thought it was D or something.203.87.90.130 11:30, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Might be. It is definently one of the fat-soluble vitamins (A,D, E, & K) ike9898 13:49, Oct 25, 2004 (UTC)
It's A. I have a fairly old(20+years) article in a book from Reader's Digest that mentions the troubles a group of explorers in Antarctica(I think) had when they ate their huskies' livers. 218.186.9.3 14:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's vitamin A. All bear liver has enough vitamin A to kill you. DO NOT EAT. See Hypervitaminosis A Shawn H Corey (talk) 19:29, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Offal/Awful[edit]

I think a IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet) reference would help, as I don't think these homophones, especially outside of the U.S., and in certain U.S. regions.

I'm not sure what the IPA pronunciation is, but I pronounce it either off'l, or oh-f'l/oaf'l. 218.186.9.3 14:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I did that edit. I wasn't claiming that they were, just that there is a merger in North America that makes them homophonous. I think this is of interest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.234.250.71 (talk) 11:12, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why dont you eat the internal organs of an animal? Because they taste 'offal'! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.233.184.238 (talk) 21:02, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bulgogi?[edit]

The site stated:

"In Korea and Japan, offal (especially from cattle) is often served in Korean barbecue restaurants. See bulgogi (in Korea) and yakiniku (in Japan"

however, i know from personal experience (as well as can be read on the bulgogi entry of wikipedia) that the dish is made with beef sirloin or other choice cuts and NOT with any kind of Offal/entrails/leftovers. Actually, choice-cuts are important to the dish as they ensure a high degree of tenderness that is a signature of the dish. Therefore, i am deleting the Korean parts of the section and altering it so it only states Japan/yakiniku. Im not sure this is true for Japan either, but as i am not personally knowledgable about Japanese dishes, i can not in good conscience delete that part of the passage.

zzz - The most popular cut of meat in Korean bbq (Korea and Japan) is tongue. Intestine is always offered, as is raw calf liver and other parts of offal. Foreigners will always be offered cuts known to be popular with foreigners but that is a very filtered view of the cuisine.-zzz

Why is there a link to Leopold Bloom at the bottom of the artical?

He was known to eat offal.

Lampredotto[edit]

On the menu of my local tripestand in Florence, Italy lampredotto is described as the fourth stomach of the cow, so I have edited accordingly. Technically I know this constitutes OR, but I'm going to go with it anyway! Let me have it on my talk page if you must.Zandrous 02:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vitamins in organ meats[edit]

From what I've read, organ meats play a vital role in the diet of arctic cultures, as they provide the vitamins that are missing from muscle meat; were it not for organ meats, the carnivorous diet would result in severe malnutrition. Anyone got any good references on this? scot 22:32, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I only have this from the same source mentioning the Antarctic explorers(Reader's Digest book Strange Stories Amazing Facts II. Yes, I'm also the guy who mentioned it's Vitamin A at the top of the page), but Eskimos only eat seal livers or something like that, because polar bear liver accumulates too much Vitamin A(presumably because it eats so many seals...). The ratio is such that you can probably eat one bite of polar bear liver and get the same amount of Vitamin A as an entire seal's liver. 218.186.9.3 14:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please add the article as a ref if you can. ike9898 15:50, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, as far as I know, there's only the hardcopy. However, there's mention on Wikipedia about the explorers, Douglas Mawson and Xavier Mertz. Also a link to them on the Liver article, where it talks about the husky livers. I admit, I really have no idea about the actual ratio of seal to polar bear liver, but I definitely heard that polar bear liver is possibly the most toxic(with the Husky livers being a close second)218.186.8.13 01:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Africa?[edit]

Does anyone have any information on African use of offal? I only know that some of the tribes who herd cows(Masai?) also drink the blood. 218.186.9.3 14:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

American Jews?[edit]

Chopped liver is not a Jewish dish, although lungen stew I have never heard of and thus cannot comment on. Specific references to the Jews of America seems dubious at best--76.21.2.109 (talk) 08:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chopped liver is definitely a jewish dish, however given the US american taboo about offals it might not be an american jewish one. Its more or less a sort of selfmade sausage (and not eaten raw, as suggested by the likes of Hannibal Lector). Janna Gurs israelian cookbook contains variations at least in the german version. --Polentario (talk) 00:25, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chopped Liver is definitely considered to be a Jewish dish in America, it will be on the menu of any "Kosher" Deli. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.124.116.101 (talk) 15:35, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Afval?[edit]

Some dictionaries seem to mention this word is possibly based on the Dutch word `afval'. The Dutch word `slachtafval' has the same meaning as `offal'. 83.181.140.160 (talk) 11:49, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Schlachtabfall is the german expression - sounds quite similar. --Polentario (talk) 00:49, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Proposal[edit]

There has been a tag here since June suggesting that lou mei be merged into this article. I don't see any discussion on the matter yet. Lou mei was not mentioned in the article, and as it is a dish that is made of offal, I have added it in the Asia section. Just a sentence to introduce the dish seems sufficient, as the article on lou mei contains other information that does not belong here. If lou mei should be merged, then it appears to make more sense to merge it into Cantonese cuisine. Hope this is agreeable, and, as usual, revert if I don't know what I'm talking about! Maedin\talk 09:31, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Health Concerns[edit]

There is very little evidence in the scientific literature connecting dietary cholesterol intake and measured cholesterol levels in the body. The health section is phrased to imply that high amounts of cholesterol in offal may be harmful to your diet, which I think is misleading at best. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.222.168 (talk) 23:20, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Germany[edit]

sort of interesting that offal is derived of a German origin but german offal cuisine is not mentioned at all. Did some enhancement on that. BR --Polentario (talk) 00:19, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Middle East section[edit]

Can someone please take out Middle Eastern countries out of the Asia section, to create a separate Middle East section.

Declining consumption[edit]

I am going to remove the following unsupported content from the introduction:

In general however, rising standards of living have led to a sharp decline in consumption of offal particularly in developed countries. In Western Europe, liver and kidney dishes were commonplace everyday food a generation ago, but are no longer. The United States has a particularly strong taboo against offal.

Whether this information is true or not (and I know personally that the extraordinarily strong statement about the US is not true), it is not supported by the rest of the article, which does not document a "sharp decline" in consumption of offal in developed countries or a "strong taboo" in the US.

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Heart does not have huge amounts of cholesterol or anything else very harmful(?)[edit]

Even if one eats 100g chicken heart every day, the % DV of cholesterol or anything else very harmful is not exceeded.

But please tell me if there is something else harmful, if a human eats (Raw) Chicken Heart every day. I buy it from pet store and it is industrially produced by a reputable pet food brand, so the manufacturer scans for any pathogens.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/poultry-products/664/2

ee1518 (talk) 17:22, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"sundae-dish"[edit]

under Denmark: what is a "sundae-dish"?--142.163.195.153 (talk) 15:38, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Originally, this said "sunday dish" but someone for some reason "corrected" it to sundae about seven years ago. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 16:44, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

English (national dialect)?[edit]

Please check the last few edits. 99% of the Kitchen Knife edits are just changing from one dialectal standard to another, and introducing errors, IMO. IAmNitpicking (talk) 03:19, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Seeking consensus here. Kitchen Knife has just re-reverted all the errors back into the article. I would prefer to get consensus rather that have to contact an admin over this. IAmNitpicking (talk) 19:14, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Muscle?[edit]

Am I being too nitpicky? The article currently says offal excludes "muscle". In my culture, offal includes the heart, which is a muscle. Maybe "skeletal muscle"? IAmNitpicking (talk) 13:48, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that works. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 18:35, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar[edit]

@IAmNitpicking: I almost forgot to start discussion on this talk page after the revert.

"Offal is the organs" isn't correct grammar in the first place. wikt:offal says "the internal organs of an animal used as food".

Offal is sometimes countable and other times uncountable. We have to clarify whether it is countable or uncountable in the lead sentence. — CrafterNova [ TALK ] [ CONT ] 06:17, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing wrong with "Offal is the organs". It's just an alternate way to state, "Offal is defined to mean the organs ..." Now, it may not be the ideal way to say it, but it is not incorrect. IAmNitpicking (talk) 10:21, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Then maybe really I am nitpicking. We learn new things about the English language everyday — CrafterNova [ TALK ] [ CONT ] 08:23, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No, I am nitpicking! Read the username! IAmNitpicking (talk) 00:49, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

human meat?????[edit]

The last sentence in the first paragraph mentions offal may also refer to the byproducts of human meat. I'm not familiar with the eating traditions of every single culture around the world, but think this might need a source, or might not be accurate. 2607:FB91:1E60:143B:3858:D5FF:FE14:6E82 (talk) 18:51, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bladder[edit]

Hi, 'fish bladder' is listed as a type but not mentioned elsewhere in the article. Here's one recipe for fish bladder chips: https://www.dn.no/smak/sjomatskolen/torsk/skrei/fisk/ny-matspalte-i-d2/2-1-722253 (item 7), made form skrei, the migratory cod caught in Lofoten, Norway. One type of offal not mentioned are dished made out of the contents of the digestive tract; fig flower petals from finch stomachs (beccafico (?) - Italy), coagulated milk from lamb (Greece?), and of course stories of polar people eating half-digested lichen from animal stomachs for its vitamin content. Oxtail is listed as a dish under Offal Dishes, but 'Tail' is not included here. T 84.208.65.62 (talk) 22:47, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, sry, last one is wrong; tail is listed as 'oxtail'. T — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.65.62 (talk) 12:38, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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