Talk:Mangelwurzel

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I merged information from Mangold wurzel, choosing this name as the primary because of a small preponderance of usage on the web. In any case there should only be one article, not two. -- WormRunner | Talk 02:58, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Abbé de Commerell

Some of this French text from the French WP might be worth translating for this article.

Vers 1784, il devient célèbre en publiant une brochure dans laquelle il préconise les avantages prodigieux d’une plante alors peu connue, qui est une variété de la betterave, à laquelle il donne les noms contradictoires de racine d’abondance et de racine de disette, et qu’on désigne par celui de betterave champêtre. Il a sans doute raison de recommander cette plante très productive, mais il y a beaucoup à rabattre dans les éloges qu’il en fait. Il cultive lui-même cette plante et l’a propagé dans sa région. Il distribue au loin les graines qu’il a recueillies. Une grêle effroyable ayant ravagé en 1788 les campagnes d’une partie de la France, le gouvernement fait répandre une instruction sur les moyens de réparer ses effets désastreux. Dans ce sens, il écrit un Supplément à l’Avis aux cultivateurs dont les récoltes ont été ravagées par la grêle (1788, in-8°), puis un Mémoire sur la culture, l’usage et l’avantage du chou à faucher (in-8°), un Mémoire sur l’amélioration de l’agriculture par la suppression des jachères (1788, in-8°). La même année, il propose une nouvelle édition des Mémoire et instruction sur la culture, l’usage et les avantages de la racine de disette ou betterave champêtre (Paris, in-8°)

--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 08:30, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

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Merge with beetroot?

Beetroot and mangelwurzel are one and the same thing (Beta vulgaris). So why do we need two separate articles?? -- Sakurambo 桜 ん坊 16:30, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

You sure about that, I was under the impression they were quite distinct 161.73.37.81 21:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

The taxobox is very confusing - it shows them both as being a species, not a genus or anything. And they are the same species. So they should either be merged or the infobox fixed. Richard001 01:53, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

We don't. I think that this article, which is substantially less developed that the Beet article be merged into Beet. I don't really feel like doing this, though. Wormcast (talk)

They aren't the same, that's like saying we should merge German Shepherd Dog with Gray wolf (they're both Canis lupus right?) --Pontificalibus (talk) 22:25, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Marynz (talk) 07:44, 14 March 2013 (UTC) I am not sure about merging with beetroot as each has a distinct commercial use. However, merging with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_beet would seem useful as the terms sugar beet and mangelwurzel are interchangeable.

No, neither Sugar beet, Mangelwurzel or (red) beetroot are interchangable: they are distinct varieties of Beta vulgaris subsp. vulgaris, with different characteristics and usages. See e.g. here. Dahauns (talk) 09:25, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Merge from Mangel beets

I find no distinction between Mangelwurzel and Mangel beets. Wright indicates that both mangels and mangel wurzels are the same as mangolds. Wright, Clifford A. (2001) Mediterranean vegetables: a cook's ABC of vegetables and their preparation page 52. It appears that while Mangelwurzel are usually grown for fodder, they can be pleasant when eaten immature. Before sugar was extracted from beets, most beet roots were grown for winter fodder, and only eaten in extremus. The tops, according to Wright were used since prehistoric times as potherbs. --Bejnar (talk) 21:57, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

I will redirect Mangel beets here per this, the sources given on Beet and the fact there's no significant content referenced in reliable sources to merge. --Pontificalibus (talk) 22:12, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

South Somerset, Punkie and Halloween

I grew up in East Coker in South Somerset in the 1970s. I've never heard of Punkie Night (I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm wondering how common it was across South Somerset) and we carved out manglewurzels for halloween. (A local farmer let us get them from his store). It should be noted that my family weren't locals, so my knowledge of historic local lore is obviously not as good as others.

Nic Doye (talk) 14:19, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Pronunciation

This is one word that should have an acoustic pronunciation feature, and a phonetic version of the name. A lot of much more common words in WP have this feature. Nice word though, and I compare it to rutabaga. Myles325a (talk) 09:44, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

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Beta Vulgaris v vulgaris?

Both the Manglewurzel and Sugar Beet claim this as their full name, but the intro to manglewurzel indicates they are distinct. Can someone please clarify this?

The full name of Sugar beet is "Beta vulgaris subsp. vulgaris Altissima Group". The full name of Mangelwurzel is "Beta vulgaris subsp. vulgaris Crassa Group". Both are different cultivars of the subsp. vulgaris.[1]. Kind regards, --Thiotrix (talk) 16:58, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Confounds Chard and Rutabaga

The article confounds chard and rutabaga.

Both plants seem closely related in terms of botanics, but they are very different in use, typical consumption, and taste.

Chard (German de:Mangold) is grown for human consumption, tastes similar to spinach, and is quite popular as vegetable, if not as common as spinach.

Rutabaga (German de:Futterrübe) is mostly grown to feed animals. During times of scarceness and famine, it was often used as a last resort and as food for humans, but most of it preparations are not popular for their taste.62.216.207.191 (talk) 12:22, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

How large do Mangelwurzels get? Could we get a better photo of a root?

Drsruli (talk) 03:21, 27 June 2021 (UTC)