Talk:Jiahu

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Spelling[edit]

Is it supposed to be Jiahu or Juanhu? Ctande 23:43, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Removing and moving[edit]

Removed the following, as it appears to be sourced mainly from the BBC article, which is an indirect source and somewhat inaccurate. The markings were discovered a while ago, not in 2003; the BBC article was most likely written in response to the paper published in 2003, now used as a direct source.

In 2003, symbols carved into 8,600-year-old tortoise shells were discovered in China. The shells were found buried with human remains in 24 Neolithic graves unearthed at Jiahu in Henan province, western China. According to archaeologists, the writing on the shells had similarities to written characters used for thousands of years later during the Shang dynasty, which lasted from 1700 BC-1100 BC.

--Confuzion 19:47, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moved the following to the Dogfish Head Brewery article, as it's more relevant there.

In 2006, the Dogfish Head Brewery in Delaware released a beer modeled after the Jiahu beverage called Chateau Jiahu [1].

--Confuzion 20:28, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removed "People of Jiahu culture might have consumed alcohol as early as 9,000 years ago". This is not a reference issue, the statement is simply not necessary. The article already states the approximate dating, as well as evidence for fermented beverages at Jiahu. That line could be added for many things, i.e. "People of Jiahu culture might have played the flute as early as 9,000 years ago", or "People of Jiahu culture might have had a written language as early as 9,000 years ago". The facts are clearly stated, so such speculation is not necessary - it should be left to the reader to reach such conclusions on their own. --Confuzion 23:30, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Added link to the comments of the Chinese scholars presenting information about the ancient flutes to the world Archaeology conference (Germasny, 2000); later published in Studies in Music Arcaeology III published Verlag, Germany, 2003. Greenwyk 00:51, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Picture[edit]

I added a picture of the flutes. Dongwenliang 01:11, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can not believe this, Dr. Patrick McGovern of the University of PA sold his research results![2] Dongwenliang 04:26, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Peiligang culture[edit]

Can anybody verify if Jiahu is the type site for the Peiligang culture? Both the Jiahu article and Peiligang culture article say that Jiahu is a particularly notable site for the Peiligang culture, but neither say that Jiahu is the type site. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 06:03, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jiahu is not the type site for the Peiligang culture. There are some aspects of Jiahu culture that are different from the rest of Peiligang culture, such as cultivation of rice, high intensity farming techniques, and differences in burial customs. Also the Jiahu site is several kilometers to the south of the other Peiligang sites, which are grouped closely together. This has led a minority of archaeologists to consider Jiahu and Peiligang as separate, neighboring cultures that interacted and shared many characteristics, but were distinct from one another. Liangshan Yi (talk) 19:02, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Speculation on tortoise shell pictograms[edit]

This section currently states, "Since the earliest pictograms were not intended to visually represent anything, and resulted from the random cracks appearing in overheated tortoise shells, it appears that the creation of the early Chinese written language was very random." I suggest the sentence be removed because we have no idea what the pictograms were intended to represent. Also, wasn't the creation of all writing "very random"? Put another way, which early writing system wasn't random? Jacques Bailhé (talk) 16:40, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]