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Last English Porter?[edit]

Since Wickwar Brewery's "Station Porter" became Supreme Champion Winter Beer of Britain 2008 can it truly be said that "The last English Porters were brewed around 1940" ? ♦ Jongleur¹⁰⁰ ♦ ^talk 08:31, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alternate origin of name ?[edit]

When I lived in London, somebody who was very knowledgeable about beer told me the it was called Porter because the brewers would take the remnants of one beer barrel and add the next brew to it. Thus the old beer was "ported" (carried over) to the new brew. Urban legend maybe ? 187.78.144.170 (talk) 11:18, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

'No evidence for name theory"[edit]

On what basis is the claim made that "The name was first used in the 18th century and may have been a result of the drink's popularity with the street and river porters of London, however there is little evidence to support this theory."? EVERY source in the 18th and early 19th century that talks about the origins of the name porter says the name comes from the beer's popularity with the "working classes" (Cesar de Saussure, 1726) "labouring people, porters" (Obadiah Poundage, 1760), "porters and other working people" (Jon Feltham, 1802) or "labouring men" (John Tuck, 1822). Somebody seems to have misinterpreted the Oxford Companion to Beer, p661, which does NOT deny the truth of the naming of porter after London's porters. Zythophile (talk) 19:22, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

When I was 16 to about 19 I would go with my Dad and elder brother to the local pub for a Christmas drink. It was always porter, my Dads drink of choice and always the cheapest. It was made cheaper but drinking 3/4 and asking for a half pint, the pot was always filled to the top. I was 16 in December 1973 so somebody was making porter after 1950's and this was not some micro brewery but a mainstream owned pub and it was on tap. This was in North West Kent so it could have come from London or Maidstone I guess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.1.109.96 (talk) 10:58, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Porter and Arthur Price?[edit]

Could someone include information about the connection between Porter and Arthur Price? it seems nobody wants to tarnish the reputation of Guinness nor Porter with the Welsh born bishop? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hogyncymru (talk • contribs) 15:54, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What's the point of describing the OG of the beer?[edit]

In the History section, the article goes to some length to describe the different "original gravity" between brews when discussing the various strengths. However, without also providing each brew's "final gravity" the ABV (Alcohol By Volume) cannot be calculated... Providing just the OG, is therefore pointless when discussing the beer's alcoholic strength.

I suggest the article restricts itself to ONLY using ABV when discussing the strength of the beers.

Unfortunately, I am historically uninformed on this specific subject, so I am unable to modify the History section in such a manner... Would an informed/knowledgeable Wikipedian please be so kind as to do so? M R G WIKI999 (talk) 16:54, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

German Porter[edit]

The Klosterzeller brewery still keeps brewing the "Mord und Totschlag" which definitely is a porter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:C0:DF2B:D000:D0D7:3DEE:A56C:C7DF (talk) 11:01, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Obadiah Poundage[edit]

The article Obadiah Poundage was nominated for deletion (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Obadiah Poundage). The discussion was closed on 7 August 2022 with a consensus to merge the content into the article Porter (beer). This has now been done. I think the amount of text is too much for the article, and per WP:WHENSPLIT should be split out into a sub-article, leaving a linked summary in this article. A suggestion was made in the AfD discussion that the article could be named Obadiah Poundage letter, and this does seem appropriate. The discussion had two keeps, two merges, and one delete or merge. There were three comments in favour of merging to Obadiah Poundage letter, and three in favour of merging to Porter (beer). There wasn't a consensus to delete, though there was a consensus that the article was inappropriate as a biography. Creating an Obadiah Poundage letter article would appear to resolve the main rationale for deletion: that the article failed Wikipedia:BIO1E. Thoughts? SilkTork (talk) 14:40, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The move to Obadiah Poundage letter has been done, preserving the article history. SilkTork (talk) 11:08, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The letter is now on Wikisource: s:Obadiah Poundage. That feels more appropriate. SilkTork (talk) 08:49, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]