Talk:Ginger

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Kind of medicine[edit]

In several sections of the article, it mentions that Ginger is used as a "main ingredient in traditional medicines", but nowhere does it say how it was used, or which symptoms it was historically used to treat. Most other herbs have this information listed in their articles, so it seems like an omission here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.43.48.19 (talk) 14:04, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Traditional Chinese Medicine[edit]

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 7 September 2022 and 12 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Shaywoodard, Cassie22smith (article contribs). Peer reviewers: SienaTCM, Cam Coe27, Em09gatt, Mr13maye.

— Assignment last updated by Cam Coe27 (talk) 04:05, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Inconclusive effects on human health[edit]

This review reaches no new conclusions (confirms a possible antiemetic effect) about consuming ginger and human health. As the authors state, the evidence is poor due to low study quality. The source only adds to the conclusion in the Research section that evidence for ginger having any health effect is inconsistent. The statement added with the source by Atchoum - A 2022 umbrella review published by the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition summarize the scientific findings about ginger - is useless. Zefr (talk) 03:50, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The article in the German Wikipedia says that the German ministry of health recommends it for nausea [1]. This is a well-known fact, but this articles makes everye effort to suppreess it. Here is an e-mail I sent to the Indian Ministry of Commerce: "India is the world's biggest ginger exporter. The English-language Wikipedia article "Ginger" omits the medicinal properties of ginger. People don't know it's useful against nausea and arthritis. I corrected the Wikipedia article once already, but my correction was reverted, presumably by pharmacy companies." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Banderswipe (talkcontribs) 00:13, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ministries are not reliable sources for science. --Hob Gadling (talk) 13:38, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also, see Big pharma conspiracy theories. And Wikipedia articles are not sources for Wikipedia articles. --Hob Gadling (talk) 13:40, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
And corporate shills are not good sources of information either Banderswipe (talk) 16:03, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Trading insults is not productive. Is there a source for the claim that meets the standards of WP:MEDRS is the only relevant question. Peter coxhead (talk) 18:06, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

Erratum Noted, Needing Revision[edit]

There is an incorrect statement which requires revision in the Wikipedia article on the herb Ginger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginger).

In the article, the assertion is made "Although used in traditional medicine and as a dietary supplement, there is no good evidence that consuming ginger or its extracts has any effect on human health or as a treatment for diseases.". It is my opinion that this statement is overly broad, and at its core, incorrect.

I substantiate my assertion based on the following three articles:

Herbs at a Glance: Ginger National Center for Complementary and Integrative Health - Health Information - Ginger - https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/ginger - Retrieved 7/8/2023

Ginger on Human Health: A Comprehensive Systematic Review of 109 Randomized Controlled Trials https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7019938/ - Retrieved 7/8/2023

Bioactive Compounds and Bioactivities of Ginger (Zingiber officinale Roscoe) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6616534/ - Retrieved 7/8/2023

Based on this evidence, I request that an editor appropriately revise the allegedly incorrect statement made previously F.M. 'Doc' Waterman (talk) 19:20, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A note on how ginger is consumed[edit]

It seems to me that some editors are concerned about the safety of ginger. I just want to provide some information that I know.

I think how ginger is consumed varies greatly among different cuisines. For example in Europe, there is gingerbread. In Indonesia there’s ginger candy (Ting Ting Jahe). In China, people consume it almost every day. However, they only have a SMALL amount of it each time (no more than a spoonful I think), mostly when shredded (e.g. with steamed fish) or minced (e.g. as dipping sauce of white cut chicken). In stir-fry (chao) dishes, ginger is sliced and put into a wok with heated oil before other ingredients are added, but the slices are usually NOT consumed, they are added just for the flavour. Sometimes ginger is used to make soup as well, but again, it’s added for the flavour (or fragrance) only and is not consumed. And I think very few Chinese will consider ginger as a “medicine”. It’s treated as a food, and maybe sometimes as a functional food (e.g. when someone says “I’m bloated.”, a friend may say “have some ginger egg soup and see if it helps.”), but no one will take ginger as a “dietary supplement”. So no Chinese will consider ginger “unsafe” IMHO. They just won’t think about it’s “safety”. They have it in every meal from childhood. Thus for them (and probably most Asian as well?) perhaps it’s very strange when someone described ginger as “safety has not been demonstrated”… --Dustfreeworld (talk) 14:41, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate your interest in sharing "some information that [you] know," but please keep in mind that we cannot use that information in any direct way. Doing so would represent original research, which we as Wikipedia editors are prohibited from engaging in here. It would be better if you can share a published, reliable source that makes the same or similar observations. General Ization Talk 20:22, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think you would be interested in this:
Talk:Ginger#Erratum Noted, Needing Revision
Thanks. --Dustfreeworld (talk) 21:05, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]