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Q1: Why are Canada and Britain listed in the infobox? Wasn't the Manhattan Project an all-American effort?

A1: No, the Manhattan Project was a multinational effort, controlled by the United States, Britain and Canada.

Q2: Weren't other countries involved? Why aren't they listed too?

A2: Other countries were involved. There were many individuals from many countries. Especially notable contributions were made by Niels Bohr (Denmark) and Marcus Oliphant (Australia). The flags in the infobox refer to the governance of the project, which was by the United States, Britain and Canada.

Q3: Is it worth noting that Canada had such a role?

A3: Yes. This had important consequences in the post-war period.

Q4: Wasn't Robert Oppenheimer the head of the Manhattan Project?

A4: No, Major General Leslie R. Groves, Jr., was the director of the Manhattan Project. Oppenheimer was the director of the Los Alamos Laboratory.

Q5: Wasn't Oppenheimer Groves' chief scientific advisor?

A5: No, Richard Tolman was Groves' chief scientific advisor. Oppenheimer was the director of the Los Alamos Laboratory.

Q6: Why is Kenneth Nichols listed as the commander of the Manhattan District? Wasn't Groves in command of the Manhattan District?

A6: No, Groves was director of the Manhattan Project; The Manhattan District was commanded by Colonel James C. Marshall until 1943, and then by Nichols.

Q7: Weren't the Manhattan Project and the Manhattan District the same thing?

A7: No, they were two separate entities. Check out the organization chart in the article.

Q8: Wasn't the sleeve patch worn only by WACs?

A8: No. have a look at the picture of the presentation of the Army–Navy "E" Award at Los Alamos on 16 October 1945. Nichols and Groves are wearing it.

Q9: Why is the district listed as participating in campaigns in the European theater?

A9: This refers to the activities of the Alsos Mission, which was part of the project.

Q10: And the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

A10: This refers to the activities of Project Alberta. Manhattan Project personnel, including Captain William S. Parsons were on board the aircraft which carried out the missions.

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Trinity detonation in color[edit]

The lead image of this article and Trinity (nuclear test) is File:TrinityDetonation1945GIF.gif, which is a GIF in color of the Trinity test. However, the YouTube source video (linked in the GIF's description), uploaded by "atomcentral", of this explosion is in black-and-white. As far as I can tell, this GIF was colorized by the uploader, GalaxyNite. This would be a violation of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images § Editing images, which says: An image that was originally published as a monochrome image, such as black-and-white or sepia photographs, should not usually be colorized. Adding color to such an image constitutes original research.

According to OSTI [1] and Popular Science, the Trinity test was filmed in both black-and-white and color, but the color version is of a much lower quality than the black-and-white version. Malerisch (talk) 16:30, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Same goes for File:TrinityFireballGif.gif (also uploaded by GalaxyNite), which just seems to be a colorized version of the second explosion in the same YouTube video. The immediate source video of this second GIF is a random YouTube channel ("The Centralnuclear"); at least "atomcentral" has some credibility. Malerisch (talk) 17:06, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agree 100% that the version at present is artificially colorized and inappropriate (the colors are not at all accurate; the orange implies a much cooler fireball than it was in reality). Its timing also seems quite "off" to me. --NuclearSecrets (talk) 00:45, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Self-published sources[edit]

@Hawkeye7: Could you please provide evidence to support that the source you restored here is by a recognized expert on this subject? Nikkimaria (talk) 04:20, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dannen, Gene (January 1997). "The Einstein–Szilard Refrigerators" (PDF). Scientific American. 276 (1): 90–95. Bibcode:1997SciAm.276a..90D. doi:10.1038/scientificamerican0197-90.
Dannen, Gene (March 2001). "Szilard's Inventions Patently Halted". Physics Today. 54 (3): 102–104. Bibcode:2001PhT....54c.102D. doi:10.1063/1.1366083.

Hawkeye7 (discuss) 06:05, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The second of those appears to be a letter to the editor; anything else? Nikkimaria (talk) 00:17, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The website in question is a compilation of excerpts from other sources about a singular topic. It does not rest on his authority (one can easily confirm the sources say what they do; it is included here because it is far more convenient than tracking down all of the individual sources). He is an independent scholar who is particularly interested in Szilard. --NuclearSecrets (talk) 03:55, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He doesn't edit Wikipedia, but he does read it, and sends me emaˆls if he doesn't like something. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:36, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

With support from UK/Canada[edit]

The revision by Whizz40 on 20:59, 2 September 2023 is not referenced, POV, and incorrect. The original sentence read "It was led by the United States with support from the United Kingdom and Canada." which is more correct than their revision. 70.51.132.220 (talk) 04:53, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Changed to "It was led by the United States in collaboration with the United Kingdom and Canada." Hawkeye7 (discuss) 08:06, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2024[edit]

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Please add this section as is in regards to Teller's group contribution.

A special group was established under Teller in March 1944 to investigate the mathematics of an implosion-type nuclear weapon. Because of his interest in the Super, Teller did not work as hard on the implosion calculations as Bethe wanted. These too were originally low-priority tasks, but the discovery of spontaneous fission in plutonium by Emilio Segrè's group gave the implosion bomb increased importance. In June 1944, at Bethe's request, Oppenheimer moved Teller out of T Division, and placed him in charge of a special group responsible for the Super, reporting directly to Oppenheimer. He was replaced by Rudolf Peierls from the British Mission, who in turn brought in Klaus Fuchs, who was later revealed to be a Soviet spy. Teller's Super group became part of Fermi's F Division when he joined the Los Alamos Laboratory in September 1944. It included Stanislaw Ulam, Jane Roberg, Geoffrey Chew, Harold and Mary Argo, and Maria Goeppert-Mayer.[1]

REF:

Hoddeson, Lillian; Henriksen, Paul W.; Meade, Roger A.; Westfall, Catherine L. (1993). Critical Assembly: A Technical History of Los Alamos During the Oppenheimer Years, 1943–1945. New York: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0521441323. OCLC 26764320. 91.217.105.54 (talk) 22:53, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Y Added a paragraph on the Super. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:32, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

African-American scientists and technicians on the Manhattan Project[edit]

I just read a great new page, "African-American scientists and technicians on the Manhattan Project," that should be linked to on this main page. Can someone add that link somewhere here? The page is protected, or I would do it myself. Thanks! ProfJsto (talk) 15:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Added a sentence. It is also now in the template, so is present in all the Manhattan Project articles. One problem: the article says As a condition of funding the project, southern legislators required that it be segregated but neither of the cited sources support this sentence. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:02, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

thanks a lot! i didn't make this page, but I can check in on the sources and see what I find. ProfJsto (talk) 21:04, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I will delete the sentence for now. It can be reinstated if a source can be found. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:42, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]