Talk:Hamburg German

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According to Low Saxon language (and de:Niedersächsische Sprache, which it was based on), Hamburger is a Northern Low Saxon dialect. Northern Low Saxon language implies otherwise. Is it? -- Toby 18:31 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

Hamburger is a variant of Northern Low Saxon like Schleswiger and Holsteiner.

Is the pronunciation of "Hamburg" correct? It was given by the same contributor that made jokes about McDonald's and referred to the dialect as "highly corrupted". -- Toby 00:16 Feb 5, 2003 (UTC)

The pronounciation of "Hamburg" in Hamburgisch is something like Humm-boorkh. The "kh" is spoken very softly. In German you pronounce it like Humm-boorg

This soft "kh" sound -- is it like "ch" in a Standard German word like "Milch" or "manch"? The the contributor's "sch" spelling is the usual approximation, and "ch(i)" means the sort of "ch" sound that comes before "i". What if we just change it to a straight "ch"? That seems less confusing to me, even if less precise, and I've long been of the opinion anyone that the front "ch" is the default any when it appears after a consonant at the end of a syllable. -- Toby 02:46 Feb 5, 2003 (UTC)

Yes, the "soft kh" is the same as in "Milch". Maybe this description is good to explain the pronouciation of "Hamburg" in the article?

Sounds good to me. -- Toby 23:11 Feb 5, 2003 (UTC)

No, it's wrong. The pronunciation of "Hamburg" in Standard German is [ˈhambʊʁk], which becomes [ˈhambʊɪ̯ç] in the regional variety of Standard German in Northern Germany, but the Hamburg Low German word is "Hamborg" ['hambɔːx] with a velar fricative as in "loch". 134.100.32.73 08:42, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Split of the article into Holsteinisch and North Hanoverian[edit]

Hello, this article has the clearly differing varieties Geest-Platt and Marsch-Platt together. The first is part of spatially extensive grouping Holsteinisch and the latter part of spatially extensive grouping North Hanoverian. Both have no article. Hence there should be a split into Holsteinisch and North Hanoverian. Kind regards, Sarcelles (talk) 15:51, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Northern Low German vs. West Low German[edit]

See Talk:Elbingian#Northern Low German vs. East Low German. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:DE:370C:38A6:CCC3:BAC8:B246:9099 (talk) 02:53, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]