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Release Date[edit]

If the release date was February 22nd, how was it already a top seller in the February 18th, 1986 issue of Idaho Family advertising supplement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.114.228.71 (talk) 00:09, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The March 18th, 1985 issue of Eurotip Sheet (page 7; the pages are not in order in the linked PDF), Alexandra's News Corner article heralds the release of this album. There is a mention in the main article about a stay in rehab in 1985, but it would be interesting to learn more about what happened in the nine month span between an album seemingly ready for release and its eventual/actual release in early 1986. alainsane (talk) 21:34, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the information I added above flies in the proverbial face of the yet uncited claim in the main article that the album had a different planned title until a last minute change. The Eurotip Sheet article from March of 1985 shows at least nine months lead time where the name seems to have already been decided on as The Ultimate Sin. alainsane (talk) 21:49, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

untitled[edit]

RIP Randy Castillo, indeed. Very sad.

I have a question for someone who might know. I notice that several of the tracks shown on Wikipedia list Williams in the writing credits, while others list Lee. Anyone who is a Jake E. Lee fan knows that his proper surname is Williams. Is there a different Williams that may have contributed to this album, or is this an error on the behalf of whoever entered the writing credits? I'm pretty savvy on Ozzy's work of this era, and I can't recall anyone else named Williams hanging around the Osbourne camp. But I always leave myself the option of being correctable.

RIP Randy Castillo

Gringo300 02:56, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know who it is, or if it's Jake. But when I edited it, it originally had the writer listed for every song (rather than the "all songs written by Ozzy, Jake E. Lee, and Bob Daisley" at the top), and some songs said "Williams", and others said "Lee". So if they're the same person, I don't know why it would say different names for him.

Rock Soldier 20:57; April 25, 2007

Jimmy DeGrasso[edit]

According to http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Jimmy_DeGrasso.html, Degrasso played on the Ultimate Sin album, not Castillo. Anyone have any other sources for clarification? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.207.118.149 (talk) 21:10, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Liner notes say that Castillo play on it and all the music videos for the album (ultimate sin, shot in the dark, lightning stikes) feature Castillo (Dr. Rockter (talk) 16:59, 13 February 2008 (UTC))Dr. Rockter[reply]

Shot in the Dark[edit]

I have the original vinyl copy of the album. The last track, Shot in the Dark, runs for 4:15. 92.9.230.183 (talk) 15:17, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]