Talk:Lithium

Split production into another article: feedback encouraged!

The current article is 7k+ words, way too long for most readers. I propose splitting the Production section into a separate article "Lithium production" and including a brief summary here. This would also sharpen this article's focus on the element itself. I also have some material to add, but don't want to make the article even longer. Lfstevens (talk) 02:07, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

• Support. --Smokefoot (talk) 03:32, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support. Best section for this indeed, relevant notability. WP:SPLIT. -DePiep (talk) 10:14, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support per above. ¹⁴¹Pr {contribs} 12:55, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Natural abundances references unclear

I cannot find the claimed abundance-values in the two cited references. I can however find an alternative reference claiming a different value (https://reader.elsevier.com/reader/sd/pii/B9780444511157000024?token=FEE1A595881CF0D109756AD7F87F83C394C8B249329B4FD12D3ADBFCF41EA837704E92729B7848FAB7F6274B890ABFEB&originRegion=eu-west-1&originCreation=20230510080244). Please cross-check. 129.129.71.76 (talk) 08:08, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

"low enough thermal neutron capture cross sections" apply to slow neutron MSR breeders

Because the "low enough thermal neutron capture cross sections" are not particularly relevant for FAST NEUTRON MSR breeders, I recommend the following change (Notes section, recommended change in uppercase): "are the only nuclides with low enough thermal neutron capture cross sections aside from actinides to serve as major constituents of a SLOW NEUTRON molten salt breeder reactor fuel." 84.236.10.100 (talk) 12:14, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Changes in pricing

Under "pricing' this should be added:

Chile's President Gabriel Boric made an announcement on April 20, 2023, stating that the country intends to nationalize its lithium industry. The stated goal behind this decision was to stimulate economic growth while also safeguarding the environment, and came after a 70% plunge in prices caused by weakening EV demand in China. MkenneyMF (talk) 21:06, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 6 July 2023

223.227.20.35 (talk) 18:50, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Mania

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Troutfarm27 ^(Talk) 18:51, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

No change, per se. I stated that "Under "pricing' this should be added." This is additional, timely information.

Reuters is listed in Wikipedia's reliable sources (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources): "Most newspapers also reprint items from news agencies such as Reuters, Interfax, Agence France-Presse, United Press International or the Associated Press, which are responsible for accuracy." MkenneyMF (talk) 18:50, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Should this topic reference use of lithium citrate in 7Up soda?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_Up Liturgist (talk) 04:10, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Possibly slightly incorrect petalite discovery history

The article states that the mineral petalite was discovered in 1800 on the island of Utö. It seems however, that it could be found in various places, and that we do not know where it was first found. We would probably need a travel diary from the discoverer to find out where he went first.

I think that it would be more correct to say something like that the first recorded mention of petalite was in 1800, stating that it had could found in three places: Utö, Sala and Finngruvan, in Sweden. (It seems correct that the actual piece of petalite that was analyzed 1817 with the discovery of lithium came from Utö and not from Sala or Finngruvan.)

I've looked at the references for the claim that petalite was discovered 1800 on the island of Utö, references 68-71:

Ref. 68, which is the original reference, from 1800 mentions three different places in Sweden where petalite can be found (not where it was first found): "On le trouve à Utoen (= Utö), Sala et Fingrufan (= Finngruvan), près de Niakoparberg (Nya Kopparberg) en Suède."

Ref. 69 refers to 3 sources: -1.Refers to ref. 68. -2.Refers to "Tschermaks MPM (1983), 31, 81-96": which mentions 5 different localities of pegmatite, including Utö, but nothing regarding where it was first found. -3.Langhof, Jörgen, Jonsson, Erik, Gustafsson, Lars, Otter, Bertil (1998) Utö- en klassisk svensk mineralfyndort [Utö - a classical Swedish mineral locality]. Norsk Bergverksmuseum Skrift, 14. 29-31: States that Utö is the locality - but no specific source to back this up (there are 14 references to the chapter). [So this is the only real source of the claim - but it is from 1998 - and it does not mention the 2 other places mentioned in the 1800 paper, it does not mention the discoverer - so I do not know why this source should take precedence. If it was known that d'Andrade mentions 3 places, but that one actually was first, it would be probably have been mentioned.]

Ref. 70 does not say that petalite was discovered on Utö. It does say that lithium was discovered in petalite from Utö (which refers to 17 years after the mentioned discovery of petalite.)

Ref. 71 mentions the same 3 localities from ref 68, and also refers to ref 68. (The ref. also seems wrong: “p. 124”, the word petalite first appears on page 484.

The Swedish version of the Wikipedia lithium page has another reference for the same claim that petalite was discovered 1800 on Utö: Per Enghag (2000), "Jordens grundämnen och deras upptäckt. Byggstenar för marken och vattnet - luften och livet", Industrilitteratur, sidan 216, ISBN 91-7548-590-7.

However this book states that petalite had been found on Utö among other places, and also citing a Swedish text from 1914 describing Petalite having been found in all of the three places (which must come from the 1800 paper).

It might of course be true that petalite was first found in Utö, but the current references do not support the claim. Wikfredd (talk) 16:26, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 January 2024

Arfwedson is misspelled as Arwedson several times Dzimmer15 (talk) 09:15, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done Tollens (talk) 10:33, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Vague article that might report a fact

What are we to make of this? It seems that there is an extraction process for lithium using the common mineral "pyrite" (FeS₂), presumably (I guess) by having the Lithium bind to the Sulfur. The article presents it as the Next Big Thing since we need more Lithium. But it also sets off some alarm bells because it lacks detail. I dislike fake science and if anyone can shed some light on this and determine if this should be included here, I'd appreciate it. Wastrel Way (talk) 19:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC)Eric