Talk:Mayer, Arizona

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Name of city in lead[edit]

Please read Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline, which clearly states, "Names of the city should be given in each of the city's official languages". Yavapai is not an official language of the city. Neither is French, Russian or Swahili. Because WP:OSE does not make it right. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 03:33, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am very familiar with Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline. It does indeed state "Name of the city should be given in each of the city's official languages", but it absolutely does NOT state that "Name of the city should NOT be given in any other language", or "Name of the city should ONLY be given in each of the city's official languages". It is an affirmative guideline about what should be included, not what should be excluded. Policy, as it is currently written, does not support the removal of names in additional languages. Yavapai is of great relevance to Mayer, given that the Yavapai were the original inhabitants of Meyer. This is common practice followed across many Wikipedia articles. Albuquerque, New Mexico and Gallup, New Mexico, for example, include the Navajo name for those places although it is not official there. This is very well sourced and I will soon be adding more about the history of Mayer to this article from similar sources. Adding the name back as policy does not require its removal. French, Russian and Swahili don't seem to have much relevance to this conversation. Yavapai is the language that was spoken in Mayer by the majority for hundreds or thousands of years until the 1800s and is still spoken by some in the area today, and English is the language that is spoken by the majority now. What is French, Russian and Swahili's relevance to Mayer? --ಠ_ಠ node.ue ಠ_ಠ (talk) 22:47, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also, is there any harm caused by the inclusion of this relevant and well-sourced information? What is the rationale for pushing for its removal from Wikipedia, other than the misinterpretation of a guideline? --ಠ_ಠ node.ue ಠ_ಠ (talk) 22:53, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also, note, from the page you linked (emphasis added):

"This WikiProject advice page is not a formal Wikipedia policy or guideline, as it has not been thoroughly vetted by the community."

"While it is just a guideline and there are no requirements to follow it in editing..."

--ಠ_ಠ node.ue ಠ_ಠ (talk) 22:59, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

When crafting articles, one should look at articles of GA and FA status, and follow those examples. Not a single one of them appears to have a non-official alternate name in the lead. Onus is on you to show an overwhelming need to include this bit of trivia in the lead paragraph.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 04:38, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]