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Template issues[edit]

Why is there an Ohio template for Greene? A statue is fine, but not enough for a template here. Also, I have tried to make the MILHIST importance as high, but it does not seem to work. I took a liberty and placed this section first. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:57, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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Nathanael Greene

Greene, Nathanael

1742—86, American Revolutionary general, b. Potowomut (now Warwick), R.I. An iron founder, he became active in colonial politics and served (1770—72, 1775) in the Rhode Island assembly. At the beginning of the American Revolution he commanded a detachment of militia at the siege of Boston and was in charge of the city after the British evacuation (1776). Greene helped plan the defense of New York (1776), but illness kept him from the battle of Long Island. He was with Washington (1776—77) at Trenton, Brandywine, Germantown, and Valley Forge. In Feb., 1778, he became quartermaster general while still holding his field command; he reorganized the department, found supplies for the army, and rendered fine service in this capacity. His notable ability at organization also appeared in his fieldwork. He fought (1778) at Monmouth and in the Rhode Island campaign and was president (1780) of the court-martial board that sentenced Major John André. After Gates was defeated at Camden (1780), Greene became the commander in the Carolina campaign. He reorganized the Southern army, and he and his lieutenants (notably Daniel Morgan and Henry Lee), with aid of partisan bands under Francis Marion, Thomas Sumter, and Andrew Pickens, turned the tide in Carolina. Greene's forces were defeated at Guilford Courthouse, Hobkirks Hill, and Eutaw Springs, but each time the British victory was reversed, and he pushed south to surround Charleston until the British evacuated it (1782). The campaign is generally considered an example of excellent strategy, and Greene's generalship is much admired. To get supplies for the Continental Army, Greene often had been forced to endorse personal notes. After the war the dishonesty of a contractor forced him to sell his estates to honor those pledges.

See biographies by his grandson, G. W. Greene (3 vol., 1867—71), and T. G. Thayer (1960); W. Johnson, Sketches of the Life and Correspondence of Nathanael Greene (1822, repr. 1973).

Vandalism[edit]

Why has this page become such a target for vandalism? How many times does someone need to change this article to make Greene gay?

Mikearmyhockey 14:48, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I know for a fact that I'm related. We don't have the same last name, but I do know that I'm related to him through my grandfather, and my great grandfather once had a rifle from that period that belonged to him.

My grandmother is the one who comfirmed it for me. --CPO Pieman (talk) 02:23, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. You have Greene blood. :) Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 02:26, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

General Assembly[edit]

Was he or was he not a member of the Rhode Island General Assembly? The section as written makes little sense: "In 1770 .. he was chosen as a member of the Rhode Island General Assembly, to which he was re-elected in 1771, 1772 and 1775. It is debatable that he was a member of the General Assembly since there is no mention of his participation in his personal papers and because there were several of his contemporaries with the same name from Rhode Island."

Perhaps whomever added the second sentence could add a citation or in some other way reconcile the contradiction. I don't have enough knowledge of the subject to do it. --Pergish1 (talk) 01:42, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Two Fort Putnams?[edit]

Several articles state that Gen. Greene was responsible for construction of Fort Putnam, at the location of today's Fort Greene Park in Brooklyn. The article on Fort Putnam, however, states that Fort Putnam is at West Point. Was there more than one Fort Putnam? WCCasey (talk) 20:34, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I found the answer to my own question (there were two Fort Putnams), and disambiguated the link in the article. WCCasey (talk) 21:19, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removed line[edit]

FYI, I removed a sentence from the militia section that stated, "It has been speculated that his zeal in attending to military duty led to his expulsion from the Quakers in 1773." I'm sorry if this was done in error, but I removed it because it seems unsourced, weasel-wordy, and unlikely. The preceding sentences mention his interests in military matters beginning in 1774.

Removed line[edit]

FYI, I removed a sentence from the militia section that stated, "It has been speculated that his zeal in attending to military duty led to his expulsion from the Quakers in 1773." I'm sorry if this was done in error, but I removed it because it seems unsourced, weasel-wordy, and unlikely. The preceding sentences mention his interests in military matters beginning in 1774.Firefangledfeathers (talk) 19:50, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I revised it...the RS are in agreement that is what happened. eg Kevin Phillips (1999) says "Would-be neutralism was the rule among Quakers and pacifist German sects like the Amish, Mennonites, and Moravians. ... general Nathaniel Greene, was a fallen-away Quaker, dropped from membership when he joined the militia." Rjensen (talk) 22:30, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Quotations Removed[edit]

Why was this done? Can it be reverted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.220.91.32 (talk) 04:24, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Link rot[edit]

This link no longer works, the target is now a German-language page dedicated to Bitcoin. Collection of Nathanael Greene letters 100.15.117.207 (talk) 01:36, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I removed it. Thanks for catching the problem and reporting it here. Deli nk (talk) 11:27, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Better source needed for Greene's involvement with institution of enslavement[edit]

This isn't a great source for the assertion that Greene was an enslaver. Perhaps some reference could be found from the Rhode Island Historical Society's The Papers of General Nathanael Greene? Procknow cites UNC's 1976 "Nathanael Greene, The Papers of General Nathanael (Volume VI, 93) in his 2017 article for the Journal of the American Revolution, "Slavery through the Eyes of Revolutionary Generals." Maybe that's a place to start. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.113.246.12 (talk) 18:00, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]