Talk:Boxer Rebellion

Korea's involvement

What is the Korean Empire's involvement in the Boxer Rebellion? I've read in the list of wars involving North Korea that the Jinwidae, the garrison guards engaged the Boxers raids along the Korean border. Koreanidentity10000 (talk) 21:26, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

I cannot find any sources saying Korea fought in the Boxer Rebellion. I found a source that said "The Korean Empire did not get involved in the Boxer Rebellion. At that time, Korea was under pressure from the expanding influence of the Russian Empire” so I don’t know what that is talking about it. LuxembourgLover (talk) 00:12, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

I believe there was a Korean legation in Beijing at the time of the Boxer Rebellion, but not in the foreign embassy quarter that was besieged. Anti-Western Chinese had nothing against Korea, which recognized Imperial China's traditional authority and wished for Chinese support against Japan (though they did not get much after Japan won the First Sino-Japanese War in 1895). Hcunn (talk) 05:13, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Do not plagiarize sources

Please. In the cleanup pass I just did on this, I found a significant passage of material that was simply copy-pasted verbatim from one of the (modern, still-in-copyright) books we are citing. See WP:Plagiarism and WP:Copyrights for why it is important not to do this.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  15:26, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Picture

Rather boys-own looking and US/west-centric ... Can we change it to show more actual focus on the rebellion aspect? 2A0A:EF40:8B9:D701:25F7:6692:257A:7F6 (talk) 15:40, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

No, the current pictures shows the largest battle of the war and showed a soldier who is very notable. LuxembourgLover (talk) 16:53, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

I'm open to it, and the description of "boys-own looking" is quite correct. But it's better for someone to bring forward a specific alternative which we can use under the policies and directly compare the current picture to. JArthur1984 (talk) 13:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

This points to a problem: the article title is "Boxer Rebellion" (though I am among those who think it should be "Boxer Uprising") not "Boxer War." So I support the quest for at least a picture that has something to do with the Boxer Rebellion or Uprising. Maybe a map? ch (talk)

Leadership

I think the art article should have a leadership for the national leaders of governments and military during the war. This is a list of the major leaders:

China: Empress Dowager Cixi, Guangxu Emperor

United Kingdom: Queen Victoria, Lord Salisbury, William St John Brodrick (Secretary of State for War)

Germany: Kaiser Wilhelm II, Bernhard von Bülow (Chancellor)

France: President Émile Loubet, Waldeck-Rousseau (PM) Gaston de Galliffet (Minister of War)

Russia: Tsar Nicholas II, Sergei Witte

United States: President William McKinley, Elihu Root (Secretary of War)

Japan: Emperor Meiji, Yamagata Aritomo (PM) Katsura Tarō (Minister of War)

Italy: King Umberto IGiuseppe Saracco(PM) Coriolano Ponza di San Martino (Minister of War)

Austria-Hungary: Emperor Franz Joseph Ernest von Koerber(PM) Edmund von Krieghammer (Minister of War) LuxembourgLover (talk) 13:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

For some sources: US Government, Russia, United Kingdom and others. LuxembourgLover (talk) 13:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Was any of them actually in China? The Banner talk 23:00, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

This was not an official war declared by any country except China, and the formalities (like Queen Victoria) are not relevant. The article is too long and too complex in the first place. Rjensen (talk) 10:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

I agree, this article is very long, we could split, this war saw a lot of commanders. LuxembourgLover (talk) 22:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

James Madison was not in africa duing the Barbery Wars, yet he was heavy mentoned and had involment. Just like McKinley during the Boxer War. LuxembourgLover (talk) 22:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

The classic WP:OTHERSTUFF EXISTS again. And if you did your homework properly: 1) Madison was not a president during the First Barbary War; 2) de jure, there was no war with the Second Barbary War as the US never formally declared war. Yes, there was turmoil and fighting but formally no war. The Banner talk 22:44, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

What are you talking about? First off I never said Madison was presedent with the First Barbary War. I just said we should add leaders somewhere. Both the boxer rebellion and the Barbery Wars where not declared wars. I do not know what you are talking about. LuxembourgLover (talk) 22:49, 26 April 2024 (UTC)