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Topics to be included[edit]

Don't have time to write this now but I think this article should include the following:

Blood and honour in different countries
Links to C18

Here is a link to C18,

Deletion of Illustration on all combat 18 articles in different languages, advice to the claim of any ideological attack, this will be directed on all social media if needed, the issue will be disputed in court, or any measure needed to revert this misunderstanding on the same perpetual legal grounds that this construct of ideological attacks are based, per country, Norway, Netherlands, United States, France.

(fyi the logo of the Rote Armee Fraction was not deleted, indication of selective vandalism.

To the editor (?) that asked for uploading the original images, I will do so before 28th of march 2017.

Aan JCB, dhr J. Bos

De illustratie die bij dit artikel hoort, Combat 18, is copyright, zonder toestemming van ontwerper (EJ Vening) is de illustratie verwijderd- verwijt ideologische vandalisme - juridische grondslag mist, extern beoordeeld. EJVening eist correctie met terugwerkende kracht. Wilt dhr J. Bos contact met mijn advocaat in Nederland, of de oprichter van Wikipedia een schrijven van mijn advocaat in Frankrijk, ik verwijt selectieve ideologische vandalisme, evident opgezet om fracties te verstoren. Alle illustraties Combat 18 RVF zijn eigendom van onafhankelijke participant.

March 26-2017

Please avoid any misunderstanding about this issue, obvious deletion is a selective ideological attack and copyright nfringement. The claim about copyright violation is false, which I can prove. I claim copyright of all (4) illustrations related to the article. JCB is in violation with national law in the Netherlands, however, I do not only dispute the deletion in the Netherlands, I delegate the issue on all social media, if JCB decides to negate this vandalism which is a construct of hosting iomags that are ruled out on ideological grounds, moreover, selective ideological ,

This is unjustified, indirect vandalism, which I take personally for the claim of copyright infringement, I do not advocate any ideology per se.

If my claim is proved true, that the construct of this ideological attack is true, external picture databases that not only claim copyright on copyrighted illustrations but also "validate" images, without any proof, missing any juridical correspondence where or when these images were disputed in court.

JCB for Mr. Johan Bos, please elaborate on which grounds your (wikipedia external hosts) hold these images, if you want.

Signed,

EJVening.

The Combat 18 fraction logo.

"Here be dragons" , a White dragon. This is for RVF readers that understand the obvious mistake about this illustration, is known. Therefore any discussion about relevance is known and disputed on a level that is beyond the scope of deletion of a illustration that I claim copyright for a skull with a baseball bat and a AK 47 (which was misanthropically discussed for more than a decade, also the inclusion of BH triskelon) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rijndaal (talk • contribs) 12:54, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Needs to be more than blood and honour is bad, its illegal. Secretlondon 12:24, Jan 6, 2004 (UTC)

we can't say that, we don't know if they're bad, they didn't do anything yet.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.102.87.141 (talk) 13:04, April 9, 2006

Just recently, they stabbed an antifa member in the back. http://www.indymedia.org/en/

Why not just link to the actual article instead of the site iteself? - LTC

69.123.9.255FinnMacCool

Why is this bad?

Because stabbing people isn't nice and its illegal. Ask Charlie Sargent and Martin Cross. Streona 16:20, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I copyedited the History section, but it still needs some cleanup. Alexiskatherine (talk) 20:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Ian front.jpg[edit]

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Heavy Edits[edit]

There was a simply *vast* amount of encyclopedic content in that article. From "Helicopters buzzed overhead" to Ian "Relishing a pint" much of it was simply not of a suitable tone for an encyclopedia. Nor should it of held the perspective of a skinhead, as Wikipedia is not a venue for their version of accounts to be aired but strives to be objective instead.

There remain a huge amount of claims made without proper citations and I hope that another editor can rid it of the rest of them. I am not certain whether that section simply stating the Blood & Honour manifesto is really appropriate, for instance, and the claim that only a single skinhead was arrested at the "Battle of Waterloo" requires verification.

Finally it says that Donaldson went "On the radio". This is rather vague, a station would certainly be helpful and the name of the presenter that wished him good fortune even more so.

84.67.13.160 (talk) 11:34, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tragedy!?[edit]

Maybe it's because I'm not a neo-nazi but, the deaths of hate-mongering fascists is hardly what I'd call tragic. Cliff Burton falling out of a tour bus to his death, now that's a tragedy. I'm going to change it to fit a more encyclopedic standard. Correct me be all means, but give reasons for doing so. JackorKnave —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.196.25 (talk) 15:27, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There, I changed "tragedy" to "deaths". May seem silly, but the use of the word "tragedy" implies sympathy. JackorKnave

The word you were looking for was 'bonus'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.178.249.147 (talk) 07:06, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Forum[edit]

The text "On August 29, 2008, the Blood & Honour internet forums were reported to have been hacked by German anti-fascist hackers, with the forum database posted online." With sources cited actually referes to a different forum. The B & H Forum has always been located at www.bloodandhonour.org/28forum —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.12.67.214 (talk) 21:24, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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