Talk:1st Independent Parachute Brigade (Poland)

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I was planning to put back the general's picture which I had replaced with the brigade patch. It's back now, but thanks Halibut for putting the pic back first, I changed it back to the original General's pic which is more 'action' oriented! :-) Pkmink 14:13, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

At your service :D Halibutt 14:38, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Patch ..[edit]

The 1st Independent Polish Parachute Brigade did not wear the diving eagle as a patch. It was issued in metal form for qualifying as a paratrooper, and the wreath was added for jumping into a battle situation or for jumping behind enemy lines with the Cichociemni. Regards .. Gary J. .. Son of a Polish Paratrooper - Arnhem Veteran

It depends on what you understand as a "patch". Indeed the Odznaka spadochronowa was worn in the situations you described. However, does it make it something else than a patch? [[User:Halibutt|Halibutt]] 02:31, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)

Halibutt, I'm only trying to point out that the "znak" - "Odznaka Spadochronowa" was not and has never been classed as a patch. "A patch" .. is made of cloth. Also, the "Odznaka Spadochronowa" graphic you have is of a later communist issue and not a WW2 combat issue. During WW2 when the badge was counter issued after a mission with the combat wreath, it is then not classed as and "Ordinary Parachute Badge", but as a "Field issue" ... For futher clarification I refer you to "Historia Polskiego Znaku Spadochronowego" authored by the late J.J.Lorys of the Sikorski Institute in London. Regards Gary J.

Strenght[edit]

Ekhm. Strenght of the unit (size, etc.) would be quite useful. Also I'd love to see discussion of why the unit was not used in the Warsaw Uprising.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 01:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can understand it had to do with 3 things: 1. Logistic difficulty, distances were still too far to fly Dakota's laden with paratroopers from allied territory to Warsaw. 2. Political reasons, allied support for the Uprising was luke-warm at best 3. Simple lack of sufficient qualified paratroopers for the big market garden operation. Every available airborne unit was highly valuable in this light. Pkmink 20:20, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image of the Polish paratroopers[edit]

There are two versions of the image. One of bad quallity claiming that it are Polish soldiers; one high quallity claiming that they are British troops. The image is also in the book A Bridge Too Far and there it is claimed to be of two british soldiers. It could be that the image is out of place here.

Since the Polish and the British troops wore virtually identical uniforms it is not possible to determine whether the soldiers are Polish of British.

The original photo is in the Polish_Institute_and_Sikorski_Museum and was taken by a Polish Photographer. It is part of a series of 15 photos around Hotel Hartenstein. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.89.16.63 (talk) 15:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


File:Polish Paratroopers.jpg
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Two British Airborne troops dug in

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Exoneration[edit]

Why is the word "exoneration" used as a section title? They did nothing wrong, so for what would they need exoneration? I am changing it to "Post-war honours" CMarshall (talk) 11:52, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Double Images[edit]

Hi folks. I'm afraid to say that as someone noted above, an image on this page is almost certainly out of place. Whilst I've been doing some work I've noticed there a 2 versions of the same image floating around. One is here and the other here. I'm fairly sure the second (ie. British caption) image is correct, and this would seem to back it up. Does anyone mind if I remove the image on this page (I'm going to raise the issue at wikicommons too) Cheers, Ranger Steve (talk) 10:25, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't. Ranger Steve, is there any picture of the Polish paras at Arnhem this one could be replaced with? Thanks.--Jacurek (talk) 18:39, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not that I can find on the IWM collection or wikicommons. There are quite a few in the photogallery here but I have no idea about permissions to use them. Sorry! Ranger Steve (talk) 19:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]



This article does NOT have a proper "order of battle" nor a proper "Table of Order and Equipment" for the 1st Polish, even though it claims both. This article is bullshit. Sosabowski is one of my ancestors. Get it right, or stop trying, (and failing)! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.71.141.93 (talk) 03:59, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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