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On 8 February 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Video surveillance. The result of the discussion was not moved.

CCTV!=Closed-circuit television[edit]

When I enter CCTV it will be redirected here. But CCTV also means China Central Television. --Peterxj108 (talk) 13:34, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is a note at the top of the article directing people to CCTV (disambiguation) which lists China Central Television. SilkTork *^YES! 22:25, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

CCTV should not redirect to this article, but directly to the disamiguation article itself, avoiding the detour via this article to China Central Television, and maybe even other meanings. @Peterxj108:, @SilkTork:. I will change the redirect, if you don't mind. L.Willms (talk) 01:50, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the ping L.Willms. CCTV redirects here because Closed-circuit television is regarded as the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. In the West (well, at least in the UK), CCTV is the most common phrase for closed-circuit television, and the full term is actually not often used - examples: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], etc. It is possible, though, that I am looking at this via a UK perspective. You may consider listing the redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion to get a wider perspective. SilkTork (talk) 10:36, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Domestic CCTV[edit]

This article seems massively outdated given the proliferation of domestic CCTV in last few years (such as video doorbells and home cameras). The intersections of domestic surveillance and the role of domestic CCTV operators as "data handlers" deserves treatment here, but the article is so messy I was quite sure where it should be introduced. I vote that this article be overhauled.

It's absolutely a good point, but the only way it's going to change is if you start changing it! "Voting" to overhaul the article is meaningless if no-one is taking the votes - there's not a committee that decides these things, it's up to you the individual editor. Be Bold used to be our slogan here. --Wtshymanski (talk) 17:52, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merge of 960H Technology into this article[edit]

The article 960H Technology is (a) mis-capitalized ("Technology" should be lowercase), (b) a complete orphan (nothing links to it, anywhere), and (c) a stub with far too narrow a focus to ever expand into a full article. The tiny amount of unique information it contains can easily be rolled into this article on the only common application of 960H video. I'm therefore proposing to do exactly that. -- FeRDNYC (talk) 13:02, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps a better target would be List of common resolutions. Klbrain (talk) 23:36, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support merge into List of common resolutions :3 F4U (they/it) 23:17, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done Klbrain (talk) 09:46, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Name calling "CC TV" camera is irrelevant , current one is "CC Camera" only[edit]

Hello,

Information created on Wiki is wrong. That is not CC TV and it's an irrelevant word people spread mouth to mouth (like Xerox.)

CC camera is the appropriate word. Closed Circuit Camera, that's all, video footage we can view by TV, computer monitor, LDC screen or any video output devices.

Now what is point to call CCTV?

Regards, Suresh CS 106.206.5.56 (talk) 05:51, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 8 February 2024[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 (talk) 17:59, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Closed-circuit television → Video surveillance – The modern common name, and already redirects here. The "CCTV" term is in decline, since this technology today generally doesn't involve televisions at all, but video footage saved to dedicated hard drives or NVMe storage, and viewed on computer screens. It's possible that CCTV could actually be split to a separate article on "legacy" technology for video surveillance, but that doesn't really seem necessary. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 22:27, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think that is a good recommendation. The arguments makes sence.Myotus (talk) 22:38, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I think CCTV is notable enough historically that it can have its own article for the legacy tech, even with the existence of a separate one for video surveillance in general. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 01:08, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I think it would make more sense to have two separate articles - one for the CCTV technology and the other for video surveillance. Jessintime (talk) 17:44, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose they are two different topics. CCTV is not just used for surveillance, it has been used for broadcast on internal TV screens for event broadcasting. The page should be split -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 20:42, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Split, as nominator. I had a sneaking suspicion it would go in this direction, and the above comments have convinced me. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 08:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I don't know about other countries, but CCTV is still overwhelmingly the most common name in the UK for such surveillance, technically inaccurate or not, and certainly not "in decline" at all. It's still the term commonly used by the police, for example. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:33, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on the un-Wikipedia basis of common sense. We don't define, we just report what sources say. --Wtshymanski (talk) 17:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.