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This page has been vandalized with a variety of things in the history section. I'm not sure what the original content was. Shoofle (talk) 05:58, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Rapidconfusion Is the Snowmen Gallery really neccessary... i think that it should be removed... and more information about the structure of snowmen, their construction and other info added

Image:Small snowman.jpg I don't think this photo has sufficient focus on the snowman --Jeff 11:58, 30 May 2004 (UTC)]][reply]

User:Silsor has Image:Snowman-and-me.jpg on zir userpage, which might come in useful here too. Marnanel 21:43, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Removed from article page[edit]

In Cement Industry, A snowman is the formation of Clinker as a heap which falls out of a hot Kiln into a cooler compartment.

Removed by  Flag of Scarborough, ON, Canada  UTSRelativity (Talk 02:50, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Ought there perhaps to be a blurb on the difference between eastern and western depictions of snowmen? I've noticed that in japanese-made videogames and tv shows and what-not, snowmen tend to have two body segments, bucket hats, no nose, and small arms like round mittens.. while western snowmen almost always have 3 segments, top hats, a carrot nose, and branch arms. this is probably not ubiquitous, but it's notable innit?

History of snowmen[edit]

hi..um.. i have to do a visual project and i chose my topic "history of a snowman" the only problem is anywhere ive been they only talk about how to make a snowman and frosty the snowman.. maybe could you put some history on here?? please? signed, desperate

I, too, am looking for the history of the snowman but find information on the structure. While it is of interest to know the differences of structure among the snowmen of differing cultures, I would like to know more of its origin. Thank you, an educator 168.103.116.51 20:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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—Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.35.13.76 (talk) 18:20, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For those of you just tuning in, that is a unicode character, U+2603 SNOWMAN in the Miscellaneous Symbols block, Weather and astrological symbols group. --Random832 (contribs) 02:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

international[edit]

Hi, I just wonder... Is the snowman a pure phenomenon of western culture or did other cultures invent it as well seperately, In Asia for example? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.44.71.127 (talk) 00:58, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, building a snowman with only 2 tiers is fairly common in Europe, at least in the UK, where snowfall is relatively uncommon and sometimes there isn't very much. All the snowmen I've ever built were two tier. I don't think it's necessary for snowmen in Europe and north america to be 3 tier. 79.67.107.57 (talk) 14:20, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Top Hats[edit]

Do snowmen usually have top hats? Is this a defining trait of a snow man? I think of top hats as a defining trait of snowmen but some people argue that they're too expensive to be used much to make snowmen, especially by children who can't afford such things. 99.224.137.2 (talk) 15:07, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's why the Frosty kids used an old top hat they found. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:37, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have tagged File:Unusual_snowman.jpg, which is in use in this article for deletion because it does not have a copyright tag. If a copyright tag is not added within seven days the image will be deleted. --Chris 10:25, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More free use images are needed. Any good artists? 99.224.137.2 (talk) 14:02, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"usually made with..."?[edit]

I've never actually seen a snowman made with a carrot nose and coal eyes, although the article says that they're 'usually made' with these items. I think the original author confused traditional snowman imagery with common snowman building practices. Maybe I'm wrong though. Any thoughts? 214.13.82.22 (talk) 22:30, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I used a carrot in my snowman days, but charcoal, not coal. If you want yours to come to life, gotta play by the book, best as possible. Hard to tell what the neighbours used, just by looking. I didn't go around squeezing the eyes or staring into them. Could have been dog poop. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:35, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unicode Subheading[edit]

Should the Unicode subheading be removed? Is it of noteworthy mention? --Bananasoldier (talk) 03:54, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Main Snowman Image[edit]

The opening paragraph talks about snowmen having carrot noses, smiles, hats and scarves. I have taken a photograph of a snowman fitting that description that I think would be better fitting for the main picture in the article. GutMaze (talk) 02:00, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I can agree that that image is better suited to accompany the opening paragraph. After reading over the comments here, I think that perhaps there should be more information on the differences between snowmen in reality and the classical westernized concept of a snowman. Any thoughts? --Raptorrage (talk) 03:03, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's a nice idea. The snowman in my photo has most of the characteristics of a classical stereotypical snowman, while people use all sorts of things to decorate their snowmen in real life. I'm re-posting my photo here.

A classic three-ball snowman

--GutMaze (talk) 03:32, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

East Asia[edit]

I doubt that building a snowman with three spheres in Japan or anywhere is considered strange. The famous snowman army picture taken in Japan consists of snowmen with two spheres because it's easier and faster. The claim that snowmen in East Asia are usually built with two spheres is not supported by any source and should therefore be removed. --2.245.215.101 (talk) 21:06, 26 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The original statement was solely about Japanese snow sculptures (added in 2008 by User:Namazu-tron), which even then wasn't cited, so I removed it. DMacks (talk) 19:53, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A source[edit]

We should use this source somehow.

Mini Snowman in a Box

By Nancy Armstrong, Running Press

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=k3CSEKfYW3sC&oi=fnd&pg=PA4&dq=Snowman+contruction&ots=slMC_TvDiR&sig=Y_aSzMkau5LXy37Y-0L1MdypyVQ#v=onepage&q=Snowman%20contruction&f=false

--Mr. Guye (talk) 04:19, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Large gap[edit]

In my opinion, the large gap between the 'History' and 'In popular culture' sections should be reduced as it makes the article look untidy in my opinion. Xboxsponge15 (talk) 18:29, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

1511 woodcut apparently fake[edit]

File:Snowman, woodcut from 1511 - Schneemann, Holzschnitt von 1511.jpg

I'm removing this image, which we had soberly captioned as "People dancing around a snowman – woodcut from 1511". However, according to a discussion here, this image comes from Eckstein's A History of the Snowman (referenced in our article) where it's intended as a joke (or hoax). The motto at the bottom is "Ik ben de sneeuwman, goob, goob j'goob", clearly a reference to the Beatles song "I Am the Walrus" ("I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob"). The image file at Commons doesn't have any real source, it simply says it came from Ukrainian Wikipedia, and the file at Ukrainian Wikipedia has no source information. —Mahāgaja · talk 11:02, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The author's caption underneath the "woodcut" reads: The Winter Festival of 1511 might have been reported by a chronicle like this.© 2007 Bob Eckstein. So it is just tongue-in-cheek; there was no intention to fool the reader.  --Lambiam 15:02, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a link to uk-wiki in a possible case the file is removed from Commons soon as a copy-vio:

CiaPan (talk) 18:37, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Further reading[edit]

Snow Day by Scottie Davis lacks publisher details. Google results even when not directly connected to WP don't have anything different from here (and usually mention Eckstein). Can anyone add them? Mcljlm (talk) 01:57, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]