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Proposed edit: Removal of Prebyterian-related template and category[edit]

Edit request:

  • Please remove a template and a category that are included at the bottom of the article:
    • {{Presbyterian Colleges}}
    • [[Category:Universities and colleges affiliated with the Presbyterian Church (USA)]]
  • Please add two categories:
    • [[Category:Nondenominational Christian universities and colleges in the United States]]
    • [[Category:Liberal arts colleges in Pennsylvania]]

Explanation and references:

  • As directly stated in the article's lead and in its infobox, Grove City College was once affiliated with the Presbyterian Church but is no longer. Likewise, it was once a member of the Association of Presbyterian Colleges and Universities but is no longer.
  • While I believe this edit is uncontentious, as a COI editor I am submitting this as an edit request in case other editors have a different assessment of the situation.

Thank you. -- DanielKlotz (talk · contribs) 19:39, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 21-JAN-2020[edit]

  Edit request implemented    Spintendo  03:33, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Two additional citations for History section[edit]

Background: Grove City College is a liberal arts college in Pennsylvania, United States. The History section of this article (in the the Founding subsection) begins with an explanation that the school's founder is Isaac Ketler and that it received significant financial support from Joseph Newton Pew. The article then makes the claim that each of these men had a son who continued their fathers' influence on the college. The relevant sentence has been (appropriately) flagged with {{citation needed}} since 2012. The sentence reads:

Pew and Ketler's influence continued with their sons, Weir C. Ketler (Grove City president from 1916 to 1956) and John Howard Pew.

To be added: I request the addition of these two citations, to clear up the {{citation needed}} flag. I'm including an explanation of each citation:

  • An obituary for Weir C. Ketler from the AP that ran in the New York Times verifies the claim that he was the president of Grove City College 1916 to 1956. Since he was college president for 40 years, it seems fair for this sentence to claim that he exerted influence upon the college. Example citation:
<ref name="Weir Ketler obit">{{cite news |title=Weir C. Ketler, College President, 98 |url=https://www.nytimes.com/1987/12/20/obituaries/weir-c-ketler-college-president-98.html |accessdate=February 11, 2020 |work=The New York Times |date=December 20, 1987 |page=46}}</ref>
  • The New York Times obituary for John Howard Pew establishes that during his life he "had served as president of the board of trustees of Grove City College." It seems reasonable to conclude that in this position he, also, exerted influence upon the college. Example citation:
<ref name="J. Howard Pew obit">{{cite news |title=J. Howard Pew of Sun Oil Dies; Served as Presidentior for 35 Years |url=https://www.nytimes.com/1971/11/28/archives/j-howard-pew-of-sun-oil-dies-served-as-president-for-35-years-he.html |accessdate=February 11, 2020 |work=The New York Times |date=November 28, 1971 |page=73}}</ref>

Thank you.

-- DanielKlotz (talk · contribs) 17:12, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 11-FEB-2020[edit]

🔼  Clarification requested  

  • It's unclear what the already-existing sentence in the article means when it uses the term influence. One person's definition of influence may be different from another. Thus, for the references to be used, the sentence should be paraphrased to state simply what the information in the NYT obits say, per WP:OBVIOUS.

Regards,  Spintendo  21:15, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed paraphrase[edit]

  • In that case, I propose replacing the sentence in question with this:
Pew and Ketler had sons who, like their fathers, were involved with the college – Weir C. Ketler as president (from 1916 to 1956) and John Howard Pew as president of the board of trustees.

-- DanielKlotz (talk · contribs) 19:52, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 13-FEB-2020[edit]

✅  Edit request implemented    Spintendo  13:55, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sources for the People section[edit]

The People section of this article has been flagged with the {{BLP sources|list of people}} template since 2012, because a source is missing for many of the people listed. I have found sources that establish the fact that these people are associated with Grove City College as alumni, faculty, or past presidents. Those sources are listed below. I believe that this article would be improved by adding these additional sources to the article and the {{BLP sources}} template then being removed. Since I have a disclosed conflict of interest, I am providing this as an edit request rather than editing the article directly.

Edit request

Alumni

<ref>{{cite web |last1=DiStefano |first1=Joseph |title=Will CEO Ed Breen slash DuPont or grow it? |url=Will CEO Ed Breen slash DuPont or grow it? |website=The Philadelphia Inquirer |accessdate=March 10, 2020 |date=November 15, 2015}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |last1=Fang |first1=Lee |title=Sphere of Influence: How American Libertarians Are Remaking Latin American Politics |url=https://theintercept.com/2017/08/09/atlas-network-alejandro-chafuen-libertarian-think-tank-latin-america-brazil/ |website=The Intercept |accessdate=March 10, 2020 |date=August 9 2017}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |title=Larry Critchfield |url=https://www.justsportsstats.com/footballstatsindex.php?player_id=critclar001 |website=JustSportsStats.com |accessdate=March 10, 2020}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |title=Schwab, Arthur J. |url=https://www.fjc.gov/history/judges/schwab-arthur-j |publisher=Federal Judicial Center |accessdate=March 10, 2020}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |last1=Barbara |first1=Vancheri |title=Film Notes: 'Dodo the Docu/Comedy' offers look at twisted family life |url=https://www.post-gazette.com/ae/movies/2010/04/16/Film-Notes-Dodo-the-Docu-Comedy-offers-look-at-twisted-family-life/stories/201004160197 |website=Pittsburgh Post-Gazette |accessdate=March 10, 2020 |date=April 16, 2010}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite journal |title=Biography - George Clark Southworth |journal=Transactions of the IRE Professional Group on Microwave Theory and Techniques |date=January 1955 |volume=3 |issue=1 |page=2 |url=https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/1124894 |publisher=Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |last1=Masley |first1=Ed |title=Weekend Music: Optimistic frontman keeps the Gathering Field playing to win |url=http://old.post-gazette.com/magazine/19990409gather8.asp |website=Pittsburgh Post-Gazette |accessdate=March 10, 2020 |date=April 9, 1999}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |title=Mose Lantz |url=https://www.justsportsstats.com/footballstatsindex.php?player_id=lantzmos001 |website=JustSportsStats.com |accessdate=March 10, 2020}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |last1=Armour |first1=Mark |title=Gary Peters |url=https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/28c24b41 |publisher=Society for American Baseball Research |accessdate=March 10, 2020}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |title=Porter, David James |url=https://www.fjc.gov/node/5373046 |publisher=Federal Judicial Center |accessdate=March 10, 2020}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |title=Ranjan, J. Nicholas |url=https://www.fjc.gov/node/6731086 |publisher=Federal Judicial Center |accessdate=March 10, 2020}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |last1=McClallen |first1=Scott |title=Q&A: Foundation of Economic Education President Reed |url=http://hillsdalecollegian.com/2018/03/43332/ |website=The Hillsdale Collegian |accessdate=March 10, 2020 |date=March 15, 2018}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |last1=Davidson |first1=Tom |title=Root of the matter |url=https://www.sharonherald.com/community/root-of-the-matter/article_678d2ef5-4de8-5e95-a0e4-d61489192a10.html |website=The Herald |location=Sharon, PA |date=February 15, 2008}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |last1=Arpi |first1=Rich |title=Spike Shannon |url=https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/8c0483cc |publisher=Society for American Baseball Research |accessdate=March 10, 2020}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |last1=Bernstein |first1=Sam |title=Frank Smith |url=https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/bb6d2cab |publisher=Society for American Baseball Research |accessdate=March 10, 2020}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite news |title=Obituaries |url=https://newspaperarchive.com/franklin-news-herald-oct-26-1984-p-18/ |work=Franklin News Herald |date=October 26, 1984 |location=Franklin, PA |page=18}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |title=Announcement of Dr. R.C. Sproul Jr. to Rector & Chair of Philosophy and Theology |url=https://reformationbiblecollege.org/blog/announcement-of-dr-r-c-sproul-jr-to-rector-chair-of-philosophy-and-theology |publisher=Reformation Bible College |accessdate=March 10, 2020 |date=February 27, 2014}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |last1=Vachon |first1=Dana |title=The Code of the Winklevii |url=https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2011/12/winklevosses-201112 |website=Vanity Fair |accessdate=March 10, 2020 |date=November 3, 2011}}</ref>

Professors

<ref>{{cite web |last1=Mohler |first1=Albert |title=Media Ecology and the Modern Mind: A Conversation with T. David Gordon |url=https://albertmohler.com/2011/04/04/tip-temporary-title-david-gordon |website=AlbertMohler.com |publisher=Southern Baptist Theological Seminary |accessdate=March 10, 2020 |date=April 4, 2011}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |last1=Schmidt |first1=Peter |title=AAUP Rebukes Universities for Their Boards’ Actions |url=https://www.chronicle.com/article/AAUP-Rebukes-Universities-for/236863 |website=The Chronicle of Higher Education |accessdate=March 10, 2020 |date=June 19, 2016}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |last1=Schmitz |first1=Matthew |title=Elite evangelicals once again belittle their pro-Trump co-religionists |url=https://nypost.com/2019/12/20/elite-evangelicals-once-again-belittle-their-pro-trump-co-religionists/ |website=New York Post |accessdate=March 10, 2020 |date=December 20, 2019}}</ref>

Past presidents

Note: In addition to the sources listed below, the college's official website includes a succinct timeline of past presidents at http://www.gcc.edu/Home/Our-Story/History/Past-Presidents.

<ref>{{cite journal |title=Obituary |journal=The American Educational Review |date=1913 |volume=34 |issue=2 |page=570 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Yx4BAAAAYAAJ |publisher=American Educational Company}}</ref>
  • Alexander T. Ormond: in addition the the existing citation, this page
<ref>{{cite book |editor1-last=Shook |editor1-first=John R. |title=Dictionary of Modern American Philosophers |date=2005 |publisher=Bloomsbury Academic |isbn=9781843710370 |page=1846 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Ijpj1tB3Qr0C&pg=PA1846&lpg=PA1846}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite book |last1=Taaffee |first1=Stephen |editor1-last=Geiger |editor1-first=Roger |title=Shaping the American Faculty: Perspectives on the History of Higher Education |date=2017 |publisher=Taylor & Francis |isbn=9781351490986 |page=176 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=VCAxDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT176 |chapter=5}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |last1=Petro |first1=Felicia |title=Tables turned as chamber surprises Eric Thomas |url=https://www.alliednews.com/news/tables-turned-as-chamber-surprises-eric-thomas/article_bda9d2dc-57da-5eb6-beac-58b90d70f80b.html |website=Allied News |accessdate=March 10, 2020 |location=Grove City, PA |date=January 24, 2017}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite news |last1=Langborgh |first1=Eric |title=The Less Traveled Path of Grove City College |url=https://www.academia.org/the-less-traveled-path-of-grove-city-college/ |work=Campus Report |publisher=Accuracy In Academia |date=February 2001}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |title=1995 Annual Local News Chronology |url=http://www2.sharonherald.com/localnews/chron/chron1995b.html |website=The Herald |accessdate=March 10, 2020 |location=Sharon, PA |date=January 1, 1996}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |title=Grove City College president Moore retiring |url=https://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/stories/2003/01/20/daily34.html |website=Pittsburgh Business Times |accessdate=March 10, 2020 |date=January 22, 2003}}</ref>
<ref>{{cite web |last1=Jaschik |first1=Scott |title=Grove City Apologizes to Professor It Fired in 1962 |url=https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2015/10/28/grove-city-apologizes-professor-it-fired-1962 |website=Inside Higher Ed |accessdate=March 10, 2020 |date=October 28, 2015}}</ref>

Thank you. -- DanielKlotz (talk · contribs) 21:21, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 19-MAR-2020[edit]

  Unable to implement  

  • The request cannot be implemented because the <nowiki> formatting prompt has been used in the text. Please re-submit the request below with the nowiki formatting prompt removed.

Regards,  Spintendo  13:46, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reformatted request[edit]

@Spintendo: Thank you. I had included the nowiki formatting in an effort to make it easier to highlight, copy, and paste. I have reformatted the request here with no nowiki formatting:

Edit request

Alumni

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Professors

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Past presidents

Note: In addition to the sources listed below, the college's official website includes a succinct timeline of past presidents at http://www.gcc.edu/Home/Our-Story/History/Past-Presidents.

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  • Alexander T. Ormond: in addition the the existing citation, this page
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References

  1. ^ DiStefano, Joseph (November 15, 2015). "Will CEO Ed Breen slash DuPont or grow it?". The Philadelphia Inquirer. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  2. ^ Fang, Lee (August 9, 2017). "Sphere of Influence: How American Libertarians Are Remaking Latin American Politics". The Intercept. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  3. ^ "Larry Critchfield". JustSportsStats.com. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  4. ^ "Schwab, Arthur J." Federal Judicial Center. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  5. ^ Barbara, Vancheri (April 16, 2010). "Film Notes: 'Dodo the Docu/Comedy' offers look at twisted family life". Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  6. ^ "Biography - George Clark Southworth". Transactions of the IRE Professional Group on Microwave Theory and Techniques. 3 (1). Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers: 2. January 1955.
  7. ^ Masley, Ed (April 9, 1999). "Weekend Music: Optimistic frontman keeps the Gathering Field playing to win". Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  8. ^ "Mose Lantz". JustSportsStats.com. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  9. ^ Armour, Mark. "Gary Peters". Society for American Baseball Research. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  10. ^ "Porter, David James". Federal Judicial Center. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  11. ^ "Ranjan, J. Nicholas". Federal Judicial Center. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  12. ^ McClallen, Scott (March 15, 2018). "Q&A: Foundation of Economic Education President Reed". The Hillsdale Collegian. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  13. ^ Davidson, Tom (February 15, 2008). "Root of the matter". The Herald. Sharon, PA.
  14. ^ Arpi, Rich. "Spike Shannon". Society for American Baseball Research. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  15. ^ Bernstein, Sam. "Frank Smith". Society for American Baseball Research. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  16. ^ "Obituaries". Franklin News Herald. Franklin, PA. October 26, 1984. p. 18.
  17. ^ "Announcement of Dr. R.C. Sproul Jr. to Rector & Chair of Philosophy and Theology". Reformation Bible College. February 27, 2014. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  18. ^ Vachon, Dana (November 3, 2011). "The Code of the Winklevii". Vanity Fair. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  19. ^ Mohler, Albert (April 4, 2011). "Media Ecology and the Modern Mind: A Conversation with T. David Gordon". AlbertMohler.com. Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  20. ^ Schmidt, Peter (June 19, 2016). "AAUP Rebukes Universities for Their Boards' Actions". The Chronicle of Higher Education. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  21. ^ Schmitz, Matthew (December 20, 2019). "Elite evangelicals once again belittle their pro-Trump co-religionists". New York Post. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  22. ^ "Obituary". The American Educational Review. 34 (2). American Educational Company: 570. 1913.
  23. ^ Shook, John R., ed. (2005). Dictionary of Modern American Philosophers. Bloomsbury Academic. p. 1846. ISBN 9781843710370.
  24. ^ Taaffee, Stephen (2017). "5". In Geiger, Roger (ed.). Shaping the American Faculty: Perspectives on the History of Higher Education. Taylor & Francis. p. 176. ISBN 9781351490986.
  25. ^ Petro, Felicia (January 24, 2017). "Tables turned as chamber surprises Eric Thomas". Allied News. Grove City, PA. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  26. ^ Langborgh, Eric (February 2001). "The Less Traveled Path of Grove City College". Campus Report. Accuracy In Academia.
  27. ^ "1995 Annual Local News Chronology". The Herald. Sharon, PA. January 1, 1996. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  28. ^ "Grove City College president Moore retiring". Pittsburgh Business Times. January 22, 2003. Retrieved March 10, 2020.
  29. ^ Jaschik, Scott (October 28, 2015). "Grove City Apologizes to Professor It Fired in 1962". Inside Higher Ed. Retrieved March 10, 2020.

-- DanielKlotz (talk · contribs) 19:56, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide the Wikilinks for these notable alumni which contain them. For some reason, their Wikilinks were not carried over to the request. As Wikipedia is a volunteer project, edit requests are generally expected to have this formatting done before the request is submitted for review.[a] Regards,  Spintendo  21:51, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

  1. ^ If the purpose of providing these references was merely to satisfy the BLP sources template, that was not necessary -- as the template may already be removed due to the sourcing requirements for that section being handled by WP:ALUMNI and WP:SOURCELIST -- which the section already meets.
@Spintendo: Thank you. I would have included the existing content in my edit request, with my edits added, but I was trying to learn from your instruction on another request that referred to the existing text of an article in the Wikipedia mainspace as "source material" subject to WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE. So that I can make life easier for volunteers in the future, are you saying that it's OK to include the existing content in my edit request if I'm simply adding references, or what's the distinguishing line of when it is and isn't acceptable to include the current content in an edit request? I have been unable to find direction, guidelines, or policy on that point. For what it's worth, I did not understand WP:ALUMNI to be a relevant guideline for this article since that advice is from WikiProject Schools (which covers K-12 schools in America), whereas this article falls under WikiProject Higher Education, which does not provide equivalent guidance in the relevant section of its article guidelines. Thank you again for your review and work on this edit request. -- DanielKlotz (talk · contribs) 14:24, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]