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Welcome to my talk page. If you've come to complain, whine, moan, question my judgment, my intelligence, my sanity, or tell me off in anyway, that's fine. I'm a big girl who can take it.If you've come to chat, compliment me, have a laugh, or discuss articles that's even better.

WikiLove[edit]

I hereby present you with this cool as a cucumber award for acting cool when the editing got hot
A girly version of the cucumber dude. I modelled her on the "rough guide" presenter Magenta De Vine. Personally i thought she was just plane weired, but she thought she was really cool.



Theresa, I've noticed that a lot of users have a Wikistress graphic, in the shape of a thermometer. I was thinking that an appropriate Wiki-love image to give to someone who's wikistress is very high might be a stylized ice cube, to help cool them. Any thoughts? func(talk) 17:39, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC) Yeah sound good although an ice cube is a bit of a dull shape. What about a snowflake or a cucumber (cool as a cucumber). Theresa Knott (taketh no rest) 19:12, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Either a snowflake and/or a cucumber would be brilliant. :) func(talk) 19:27, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Well I'm not too good with cartoons - diagrams are my thing but this is what I've come up with so far. Theresa Knott (taketh no rest) 00:21, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

It's great, Theresa. :) Mr. Cool! (or Ms. Cool). Maybe there should be a smile, though, as befitting WikiLove. :) func(talk) 12:45, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Do cool people smile? ever? I'll try my best though give me a few days. Theresa Knott (taketh no rest) 12:57, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

When they work with you on Wikipedia, they can't help but be happy and smile. func(talk) 13:12, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I have no idea who Magenta De Vine is, but her likeness as a cucumber is fantastic! :) func(talk) 23:07, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Those are great, but what if I'm as hot as a jalipeño? - Nunh-huh 23:54, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Now now people. Some of you are just going to have to learn how to draw yourselves, seeing as I've got a couple of real article diagrams I need to work on. You can start with my drawing tutorial at Wikipedia:How to draw a diagram with Microsoft Word note that most office software packages have some sort of rudimentary drawing tools and they all work in much the same way, so even if you don't have Micro$oft you can still follow the tutorial.
Well, I won't lobby for the less serious efforts, but sadly, absolutely nothing will ever teach me how to draw a jalipeño.... - Nunh-huh 05:34, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Try this. heh heh - as if you people don't waste enough time on wiki The Steve 09:12, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)
File:Hot stuff.png
"I'm hot for you"
  • Thanks Steve. That website is a lot of fun (I'd better not tell the kids about it or I'll never get them off the computer). To Nuh-huh here is a quick drawing I made by sticking a face made at the above website onto a clip art of a pepper. It's very easy. A child could do it!Theresa Knott (taketh no rest) 10:14, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
It is a cute web-site. Now I have to find a child to make it work (just kidding...). Of course, TK, it could be Chilly as a pepper<g>.... - Nunh-huh 22:23, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Love your cukes! --Uncle Ed (Rod Poe) 16:57, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thanks Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 18:58, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Evangelical Lutheran Church in America[edit]

While this article doesn't envolve sock puppets or fake bans it does envolve penieses peripeherally, so perhaps might be slightly on topic. Evangelical Lutheran Church in America has had the paragraph about sexual abuse removed twice by differnt ISPs with the same edit summary. I think it may be an attempt to remove the info from the article. Have to leave be somewhere in ten minutes, I will explain further if nesecarry. Please add the page to your watch list, look into the matter and review my actions if nesecarry. -JCarriker 18:45, Sep 16, 2004 (UTC)

OK I've added it to my watchlist, if the anon comes back I'll try to talk to him. Theresa Knott (taketh no rest) 22:14, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Thanks.-JCarriker 05:36, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC)

Foreskin restoration edits[edit]

Greetings. It is noted that you are involved with the editing of the Foreskin restoration article. Over the pass week or so this article has seen heightened activity in which you have been involved. The article is steadily generating into a POV defence of foreskin restoration. My question to you is simple. If you are not able to contribute to NPOV in the article why you do not simply recuse yourself and just walk away? - Friends of Robert 03:37, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Here you go again accusing me of POV pushing without any evidence.Which of my edits are a "POV defence of forskin restoration"?

this one? where I remove a "Foreskin restoration has beneficial emotional results" and replaced it with " Foreskin restoration has been reported as having beneficial emotional results"

Or is it this group of edits Where I removed " Cosmesis is dramatically improved by restoration" replaced "psycological aspects with "emotional aspects",removed the phrase " This article reflected a pro-circumcision cultural point of view" about the Prepuce Restoration Seekers, and added a quote from that paper?

My edits to that page have been to tone done the 'pro' arguments and NPOV the article. Did you even look at my edits to see what the were? Or did you just look at the history, see my name, and automatically assume I would be encoraging a pro POV. Please stop with the trolling now. I have no time for you. Theresa Knott (taketh no rest) 08:23, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

  • Theresa suffice it to say that we are onto your game. Those who are aware the the issues which surround the circumcision debate know exactly your angle is. All you are doing is helping to take the rough edges off the anti-circumcision argument. It is patently obvious. You should recuse yourself from editing anti-circumcision posts and drop the pretence that you are striving valiantly against the onslaught from both pro and anti extremists to achieve NPOV. - Friends of Robert 04:45, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
You are beginning to sound more and more like Robert himself every day. If you really want to see what unchecked POV looks like, that is exactly what you would get if Theresa were to stop editing those articles. Robert would do better to count Theresa as being among his friends in ensuring a balanced approached to the issue. What is it about taking the rough edges off that leads you to believe there is a game? You seem to be arguing against the inclusion of any anti-circ arguments. Guess what: that would be POV. Do you know who would be even more interested in Theresa recusing herself? The anti-circ extremists. func(talk) 05:15, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • Knee jerk responses based on blind loyalty are not helpful. There is no doubt having read what Robert stated and what I have seen of Theresa's input that she is merely a "kinder, gentler" version of the anti-circumcision extremists. Her editing serves to provide a "vanilla" flavor to the anti-circumcision POV. Theresa's input is not helpful and cartainly does not contribute to NPOV. It is better for her to step aside and let anti-circumcision extremists just go ahead, then people will see the content for what it really is rather than the sugar coated pill Theresa seems keen to serve up. - Friends of Robert 05:25, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Robert (and you clearly are Robert) I will not step away from the articles. I will not allow allow anticirc extremists to put their own POV in the articles. I will not allow allow procirc extremists to put their POV in the articles either. The articles will reflect both POV's in a balanced way because that's what NPOV is all about. I'm sorry that you don't like it, but that's how it's going to be. Wikipedia is not a battleground for you and the anticirc mob to fight it out. You want to do that - go somewhere else. Theresa Knott (taketh no rest) 08:37, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Methinks thou doth protest too much! I have placed a challenge on the smegma talk page for you to come up with the answer as to where you got the lysozyme stuff from. It is quite clear you introduced anti-circumcision POV stuff, but it would be interesting to see what you say anyway. So Theresa what I am asking you is to stop the pretence of neutrality, recuse yourself and get busy elsewhere. - Friends of Robert 18:13, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
No. Theresa Knott (taketh no rest) 18:30, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Meaning you will not stop the pretence of neutrality? - Friends of Robert 01:28, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • You are very funny. I will not stop editing any articles. Theresa Knott (taketh no rest) 08:34, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Of course you will not. The best we can hope for is that you desist from continuing in pushing a POV agenda. We can but hope. - Friends of Robert 08:57, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Ridged Band[edit]

Hi, Theresa. I'm a new wiki participant here, just getting into it. I seem to have met with some editing opposition from Friends of Robert on the Ridged band article. He told me to come talk to you. Can you help us resolve the dispute over there? I want to start contributing new articles to Wikipedia, but I feel obliged to wrap up the loose ends over there. Also, if you have any tips about writing new articles, I'd really appreciate it. I'm working on one now regarding Mary Ann Glendon's "Rights Talk". It's a fascinating read. Anywho, thanks for reading. TrevorPerry 18:06, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Well I can't help resolve the dispute as such because Robert Brookes thinks I am a anticirc POV pusher hobbit who doesn't deserve to be an admin, and I very much doubt that he would let me mediate. His "go ask Theresa" was almost certainly a dig at me rather than a serious attempt to help you. What I can do however is play devil's advocate. Put your stuff in the article,ignore Robert's provocations, and I will go over it with a fine toothed comb. As for tips for writing new articles, everyone has their own style of doimg things. I personally like to get the information on the page. The more information the better. There always seems to be plenty of people willing to copyedit, so I don't worry too much about making the prose pretty at first, but that's just me, others do things differently. The most important thing to do is have fun! Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 18:58, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Lets just correct that shall we. Yes you are indeed a POV pusher and as an admin that is disgraceful. All you should do is recuse yourself from circumcision (or maybe closer to the point, foreskin orientated) articles. The fact that you can't says a whole lot about your mindset. Sad. - Friends of Robert 04:53, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • My "cause" is that male circumcision is a perfectly acceptable parental decision as a result of religious, cultural or medical considerations. Now provide evidence of my lies. (Interesting note that Theresa is quiet about this personal attack. Perhaps she would like to comment why personal attacks on some are acceptable while others are not?) - Robert the Bruce 01:50, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Thanks Theresa, you're a gem! I appreciate your help. TrevorPerry 21:34, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

TRECA[edit]

Hi Theresa -- I had contacted someone there by email a couple of weeks ago, so it's nice to see that something came of it!

And thanks for reverting my talk page :-)

Peace, BCorr|Брайен 15:10, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

You're more than welcome. It's Mr Treason who vandalised it. Theresa Knott (taketh no rest) 15:13, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

user talk:Mirv[edit]

I don't doubt that your intent is good, but I would appreciate it if you would not remove messages from my talk page. If whoever it is you're reverting there is discussing, he is at least not vandalising elsewhere; and while previous efforts to talk to him may have failed, hey, it can't hurt to try again. —No-One Jones (m) 20:08, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Well OK but you should know that User:Mr Treason is currently under a hard ban for making death threats. He can't be blocked because he edits from AOL proxies, so reverting is the only option we have. When I see him about I just revert every edit he makes as do a number of other users, but I will refrain from reverting his talk on your user page in the future. Theresa Knott (taketh no rest) 20:30, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thank you. —No-One Jones (m) 20:31, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

After reading his comments at Mirv's page, I think it is a near certainty that Mr. Treason is a kid. Previously, I had assumed a deranged adult, but it's hard to believe this to be the case after he expresses the willingness to join the Wiki Watch... whatever the heck it was called, after it was proved to be a child's invention. He's a smart kid, who knows how to correctly use words like "cabal", but it seems clear to me now that he is certainly a kid, and not merely a childish adult. func(talk) 21:04, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I'm not sure, I still think of him as being an adult. Whatever his age is, he's certainly a nasty piece of work. Theresa Knott (taketh no rest) 14:34, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my userpage![edit]

Much appreciated. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 20:44, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)

No problem. I'm mass reverting Mr treason at the moment. Theresa Knott (taketh no rest) 20:45, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Spiritual Beauty[edit]

I have reformed. Thank you for your patience.

Thank you[edit]

You did excellent work in resolving the 33451 situation, hopefully for good this time. Lately almost every time some new issue with him caught my attention, I found you or somebody else was already dealing with it. --Michael Snow 21:58, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, though it wasn't all down to me. Theresa Knott (taketh no rest) 14:34, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Tits[edit]

That's just funny. -- user:zanimum

:-) Theresa Knott (taketh no rest)

TMS[edit]

I don't get this. Traumatic Masturbatory Syndrome was going to get deleted, right? And now it's still there, right? And the Vfd notice has been removed, right? Somehow this went wrong - the votes clearly showed delete 19/11! JFW | T@lk

No we don't delete on a simple majority. We only delete on consensus. The exact definition of consensus varies but since am one of those people who passionately argue against allowing it to drop lower than two thirds I can hardly complain when a page I think should be deleted and it doesn't get consensus :-( So since the article is to be kept we'll just have to get rid of all the POV and self selecting polls etc.

Astrodynamics[edit]

Any interest in Astrodynamics? I haven't had as much time as I would like to invest in that article, so it has not been improving as quickly as I had hoped. (I have two brothers getting married in the space of three weeks, among other things.  :-) I know you have an interest in at least some space-related articles. --Doradus 03:04, Sep 22, 2004 (UTC)

beta Systemic Bias section[edit]

Hi, if you wish to help contribute to a beta version of a Wikipedia page section designed to counter-act Wikipedia's systematic bias, please sign the bottom of this section on the Village pump - Wikipedia:Village_pump#Systemic_bias_in_Wikipedia. If not, no worries.--Xed 03:24, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

move comment by User:Jarnsaxa from user page to talk page[edit]

How bizarre!!! Thank you for answering my question on Grunt's page. Looks like I have a very bored and immature co-worker :( I'm glad I created my own log in! --Jarnsaxa

Thank You[edit]

You have been extremely helpful. You have done your part to increase the spiritual beauty quotient. EDGE 14:48, Sep 23, 2004 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivar_Aasen-sambandet[edit]

Of course most changes are done by me, the other is using VPN to shift his IP.

The user user:thintank is altering indisputable facts. For info on Ivar Aasen-sambandet see: http://www3.brreg.no/oppslag/enhet/detalj.jsp?orgnr=982495938 in "The Central Coordinating Register for Legal Entities (http://www.brreg.no/english/registers/entities/entities.html)"--FATagnus 14:56, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

EDGE mixup[edit]

May I emphatically state once again that I did not knowingly eliminate a comment on the VfA page and that I left an apology on EDGE's talk page. The minor edit in question was the addition of another comment. - Lucky 6.9 15:52, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I realised that. (Well maybe I didn't at first but i do now) Theresa Knott (taketh no rest) 16:12, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • LOL! Thanks. I've been trying to "fly under the radar" by staying out of this site's more contentious areas and I was worried that I'd aroused the ire of a sysop without meaning to. Damifino which comment I blanked, but what the hey.  :^) Best, Lucky 6.9 22:46, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

For the official Wikirecord, I completely forgive Lucky and wish him or her a happy Halloween. May you all live in peace and beauty. EDGE 02:37, Sep 24, 2004 (UTC)


It's not halloween yet. Theresa Knott (taketh no rest) 08:20, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
You are far too literal in your interpretation of my statement. -- EDGE

Talking Bollocks[edit]

I don't know if it should be with a sense of amusement or of abashedness that I confess that the first thing I thought of when confronted with "talking ballocks" was a Variety show act.... <g> - Nunh-huh 03:21, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

<laughs>It would be a crowd puller! (Well I'd go to see it anyhow) I take it it the expression is not common in your parts? Theresa Knott (taketh no rest) 08:27, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Well, it doesn't come up much in conversation<g>. But we see enough British comedians to make it understandable. Still.... if we can have Puppetry of the Penis, can Talking Ballocks be far behind? - Nunh-huh 20:47, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

What were you going to say about barium chloride?[edit]

Hi Theresa (The Torn Steak?). You tried to edit the Reference Desk just now, but it didn't work. At the same moment, I received an "edit conflict" warning while editing that page. The result was an empty page with your fingerprints all over it. I reverted the blanking, but your edit was lost. It looks as if there is a bug in the edit conflict software. It wasn't me, honest! --Heron 14:03, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC) Weired! Thanks for letting me know. BTW I like The Torn Steak (I shall use it straight away) Theresa Knott (taketh no rest) 14:51, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

reflections[edit]

Hi Theresa (the Kant store/net stork heat/theta ork nest/hot netskater/not a trek, Seth!) -- I've changed the paragraph about the spherical shape of the soap bubbles and gravity and air resistance. I thought about the reflections for a while and realized that actually there's more wrong with the article than just the missing 180° phase jump. There aren't just two reflections but an infinite series, and the two alone wouldn't cancel out. As the angle of incidence increases, the reflectance of the interfaces increases, and the first reflection becomes much stronger than the second; it's only the long series of further reflections that cancels it out. I'll change the text accordingly; I wonder whether the diagrams should be changed, since in them the second reflection looks equal (and opposite) to the first, and the other reflections aren't shown at all. Note also my questions about the diagrams at Talk:Soap bubble.

By the way, you said you were going to blank User talk:Wik after Jimbo's message unless you'd forget :-)

Also by the way, I finally found a picture of you :-)

Fpahl 20:50, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

OK well let me read your changes and think on it. I think that rather than change the existing diagrams it might be better to add additional ones. That way the 'easier ones are still there for those people who find physics hard (bearing in mind that most people who read an article on soap bubbles are not especially likely to be up on optics). Anyway give me a few days to think on it some more.
I did forget to blank Wik's talk page :-( I've don it now though! Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 22:02, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Official invitation[edit]

Hi!

This is a message to let you know that there is now a UK-specific Wikipedia community page at Wikipedia:UK wikipedians' notice board. It would be great if you could come and get involved! -- Graham ☺ | Talk 22:46, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for coming and signing up to this page, I'm finding it very gratifying the number of people who think it's a good idea. By the way I discovered via the list of wikipedians by birthday on meta that we share the same birthday. Just thought I'd let you know. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 23:33, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Cool! Yes i think it's a very good idea. I'm going to bed now, but I'll check your contributions list in the morning to see if there are any people that I know are from the UK who you've missed. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 23:44, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I'm not a vandal[edit]

I don't understand what do you mean? How am I a vandal if a remove that porn picture? This is supposed to be an Encyolopedia--198 23:36, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

That picture has been on wikipedia for over a year. in that time there has been much debate as to whether we should have it. The consensus is that we should although it would be better to replace it with a high quality medical drawing or a better photo. Removing something that has been agreed by the community is vandalism. See the talk page of clitoris and comment there, by al means try to convert the community to your way of thinking (although I doubt you will find it easy) but do not remove it from the page unilaterly. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 23:44, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Theresa do you have children of your own? Do you understand that there could be children on this website?? All right I left a comment on the talk page of "Clitoris", I don't understand much about this website and i'm from a Christian Fundamentalist back round; please try tolerate my behavior--198 00:01, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Yes two girls, yes children and adults find this site more and more informative as it gets better and better, I understand that you hold strong views on this sunbject but you have to understand that this site id edited cooperativly. I am happy to tolerate your opinions, what I will not tolerate is unilateral deletion of content. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 00:08, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Well if these is supposed to be a community could we put this some how to a vote?--198 00:11, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

It's already happened. Read all of the talk page. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 00:13, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

interpretation of consensus[edit]

Hi Theresa -- from your remarks above about consensus and two-thirds majorities, I thought you might be interested in my post at Wikipedia:Votes for undeletion.

BTW, I added a colourful image to the soap bubble article :-) Fpahl 16:40, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Hi Theresa -- I was glad to see your comments -- the whole thing was taking a decidedly Kafkaesque turn -- I complain about being ignored by unargued one-liners, and I get lots of unargued one-liners in response...
Still, we seem to be in the minority. I'm wondering whether this is because we're in the minority on Wikipedia as a whole, or because a certain sort of people frequent VfD and VfU. You've been around much longer; perhaps you have more of a feel for this. If it's the latter, then I think we should propose a clarification of the guidelines in a different, more representative forum. (Which one might be appropriate?) I've never seen "consensus" taken to mean a two-thirds majority anywhere else; it took me a while to figure out that that's how Graham uses the word. It's definitely not what the article on consensus says it means. Either the "consensus" part or the "two-thirds majority" part has to go. Or, since people were arguing from the 'V' in the name, perhaps we should propose renaming it in "Arguments for Deletion" or "Discussions about Deletion" or some such. But of course the naming secondary -- first I think it's important to find out whether the community as a whole thinks that that's what it should be for, or whether most people are happy with this "dictatorship of the majority" idea. I think it's completely contrary to what Wikipedia is about. Fpahl 08:24, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

re:your note[edit]

Thank you for letting me know. Mintguy (T) 09:39, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Photo Naming[edit]

I'd welcome any efforts you'd be prepared to give on renaming all my photos to something meaningful. I can give you SSH access to the directory. Did you see the one called nice hair? That's both the most recent and my favourite picture of myself.

Regarding Johnathan Ive, D'oh!! Nicholas 17:28, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

No way! Do your own housekeeping :-) Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 20:07, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

A New Image[edit]

Perhaps if I asked very very nicely I could persuade you to provide one? It would be appreciated.

LOL I've had clitoris on my watchlist for about 2 years. If i was prepared to do it, I'd have done it by now. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 20:11, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Talk:Sexual intercourse and other circ-related personal attacks[edit]

I'm at my wits' end in terms of dealing with these folks. Expressing opinions (especially on a topic that's intrinsically very emotional for some) is one thing. The kinds of personal attacks that seem to be coming from some in the anti-circ crowd is another - and I don't know what to do short of filing a mass request for comment. Pakaran. 13:39, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I know. Some of them are a bloody pain in the arse! It's not just the anti circ mob either. Robert Brookes aka friends of Robert aka Robert the Bruce has also made a fair number of them. But i don't think a mass request for comment is fair. Gather evidence and file a request for comment on each individual problem user. A mass request for mediation might work though as they seem to know each other. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 13:51, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

RfA[edit]

Hm, well I'm not sure I read the situation just as you do. If the nominator is who I half-suspect, or even not, it's likely from where he sits that it's not obvious what nominations will crash and burn. Indeed, SS is not doing half-bad at some 60%. My vague impression is that he scans stats pages for overlooked big contributors and may be unaware of attendant controversies, although in nominating me he seemed to know a bit more. I also know what you mean about RfA brutality and oppose votes; I at times consider proposing a rule that opposition must be justified, as this is the norm in consensus-based systems (this I know from my days as manager of a housing co-op run on consensus, where further it would fall to one to make a counteroffer), although I'm far too exhausted to re-venture into the world of Wikipedia policy. But a good half of my opposers seemed out to settle a score rather than pondering the merits of the actual issue. Any fool can dream up a reason, of course, but it's a starting point. Oh and thanks for noting the E-mail issue; it had simply never come to my attention before, and is remedied (which is not to say I have an opinion on whether discretion is really needed here). VeryVerily 10:30, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)

No I think making people state a reason will worsen the personal attacks. "The reason I oppose the candidate is because they are a vile vat of stinking pus" I don't know what to do about rudeness. Perhaps I should start pulling people up on it. If we all did that it might have an effect. I dont know though. I'd probably just get the guilty ones pissed at me. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 19:41, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Anagrams[edit]

Hi, just wanted to let you know that I'm envious of all the anagrams your name allows...have been following the history of your signature with quite some amusement for a while now :) Unfortunately, the only possible anagram for my real name seems to be Schwanzvers, which is oddly appropriate for my usual mode of conversation if you understand German :p -- Ferkelparade π 23:43, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Well I can't take any of the credit because most of them were suggested to me by other wikipedians. More are always welcome! However I am lucky to have so many of thr commonest letters used in English in my name. It does make things easier :-) I don't understand German, the curiosity is killing me. Please translate. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 19:33, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
It roughly translates to dick verse (Schwanz is a double entendre in German, literally means tail, but is colloquially used for penis :p ). By the way, I love your tits. Give them a hug from me :) -- Ferkelparade π 23:17, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
He he he you should read the section on talking bollocks further up this page.
That's so interesting TK does anagrams and that you're talking about anagrams, and earlier before I went on this site found some other geekess making--oh wait, those were acronyms, about computers. I meant that I've been using this handle for many years on the internet, and quickly after on IRC getting told that it has lots of anagrams and hidden meanings in other languages. I got ya all beat. :) I did some work, and determined that my handle has more meaning density than the Bible Code. It suits me, as I plan to take over the world... lysdexia 12:55, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Reflexology Image[edit]

Hallo: Where did you get the "Reflexology" Hand-Zone-Map from? I would like to use it in the German Version, but knowing the source (Copyright issues ...). - Thanks Next2u 15:32, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I take it you mean foot zone map? It was drawn by a reflexology student called 80jimmylouiefor Wikipedia at my suggestion. I've just tagged it as GFDL. Make sure you take the larger image Image:Foot chart1.png amd get the key off the page. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 08:23, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)

"Cross-Dresser" article[edit]

Greetings.

This concerns the "Cross-Dresser" article, which says it's "protected".

I'm a historian who would like to make needed changes to a few portions of that page in the interest of historical accuracy. I've posted a note (which is finally now formatted correctly) outlining why changes need to be made - please see the 'Talk' page for the article in question, and look for the comment added by myself (Allen Williamson) under the Joan of Arc section - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cross-dresser

If you would un-protect the page, I could make the needed changes to it.

Regards, Allen Williamson

URGENT: Opposition to "Sam Spade": See User:Spleeman/Sam Spade[edit]

See a critic's tracking of SamSpade's activities on Wikipedia at User:Spleeman/Sam Spade Vote "NO", or reverse your vote, even at this late hour. This is criticle (and critical) information! IZAK 09:16, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

See: User:Spleeman/Sam Spade#Political bias:

  • From Sam's own user page: User:Sam_Spade/Theoretical_Biases
  • Removes references to groups such as the KKK as "right-wing" [1]
  • Attempts to sugarcoat racist views [2]
  • The claim the Geli Raubal was Hitler's mistress is just that, a claim [3].
  • Wants Hitler labeled as a socialist on the communism page (see Talk:Communism)
  • Insists on including his personal theories regarding a relationship between nazism and Chinese communism in nazism article:
  • From Talk:Socialism:
    • "I intend to do what I always have, which is insist that the Nazi's were socialist because... they were." (Sam Spade 00:32, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC))
  • Called another editor a "fascist" (Talk:Socialism#protection). This is similar to his attempts to try to provoke me by implying that I was a nationalist, or not an anarchist:
  • More on belief in non-racial eugenics: Why Sam is Right Wing (a list by User:Stopthebus18)
    • Stopthebus18: "People (including our country) have done horrible things in the name of eugenics." (StoptheBus18 16:02, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC))
    • Sam Spade: "Seems to work in Singapore. Bad things have been done in the name of all sorts of medicine, but we don't stop going to the doctor, do we?" (Sam Spade 17:21, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC))
  • Guess what everybody!!! "The attempt to paint them [the Nazis] as "reactionaries" is a propagandistic fraud." (Sam Spade 16:11, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC), Talk:Nazism) Wow! You learn something new everyday.... Not.
  • Hmm. For some reason, Sam doesn't want anybody to know that white-supremacist Wolfgang Droege was involved in drug trafficking [4]
Sorry but your argument above hasn't convinced me to change my vote. I would require evidence of Sam violating polices.Sam's politacal point of view has nothing to do with it. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 17:07, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

wow[edit]

why are you editing my user page?

Theresa reverted this, which she probably thought was vandalism. — David Remahl 23:42, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
...because you were not logged in at the time. Anonymous edits to user pages are always looked at with suspicion. func(talk) 23:47, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Already replied on your talk page but changing Film & Video to Film & Video looked very dodgy to me. I figured that no one would want to do that to thier own user page. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 23:50, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

you seem like u hav plenty on your plate[edit]

u were mistaken. I could see how the different IP # might throw ya but ya guessed wrong. so, as we say in north america, please refrain from doing me favors of this kind. I appreciate your intent. Kzzl

Is it time...[edit]

...to file the evidence and arbitrate again? Given the conduct I'm seeing, I think it's clear previous sanctions have been ineffective at best. I'm not the target you are, at present, so I figured I'd see how you felt about it before I started putting things together. Thanks for all your hard work -- I appreciate your contribution here, and the restraint you've been showing. Jwrosenzweig 19:37, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Well, I blocked him for 24 hours since he violated personal attack parole (in my estimation) at Talk:Alternative medicine in his comments to you, Geni, and JamesMLane. Since I don't think I was attacked, I felt confident that it was all right for me to block him. If he has a problem with that, he can ask the arbitration committee. I think it's time, though, to hold him to the standards the arbitration committee was willing to set -- if he's going to sling mud at you and other editors, he's going to get temp-banned. Jwrosenzweig 20:46, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
James I've temp banned him loads of times over the past couple of months. He'll be back within a week. I've endorsed the third RFAr and asked for a long term ban. Actually i'm not even sure it's necessary to go through arbitration. He's making legal threats. Mr Treason was banned by the community for doing the same thing IIRC. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 21:38, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

My addition to your user page[edit]

Theresa, "func" thinks that I vandalized your user page. I hope you don't think so. I thought I was adding a characteristic you had, yourself, stated and I thought I was adding it in a neutral and unbiased way. KeyStroke 21:16, 2004 Oct 11 (UTC)

No I am happy with the edit you made. (If I wasn't i'd have removed it) Where does func say that? Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 21:19, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I removed my statement (which I made on his user page), and I apoligized, (on his talk page). func(talk) 21:24, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I'm glad that's all cleared up :-) If only everything was so easily delt with. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 21:27, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

RfA[edit]

Hi, I just wanted to drop you a note of thanks for your support, as well as your kind and thoughtful comments. Also, on an unrelated matter, I'd like you to know how amusing I find Image:Now that's a great pair of tits.jpg to be :D I've been showing that image to alot of people, and it seems to be pretty consistantly well recieved ;) Sam [Spade] 22:00, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thank you I'm glad you found it funny. Even irismiester seems to like it - sort of (he told me in his own special way ;-) [5]
I was reading his user page today, and I sincerely wonder what is going on w him. He seems to be an extremely creative and intellegent individual, and I wonder why he feels a need to engage in such stressful interactions w other wikipedians... The psyche major in me would like to meet him IRL, and see how he is doing. As odd as it may seem, I like the concept of meeting people IRL (meet-ups or whatever), and I think one or more of us meeting say... EoT or michael might actually make a difference. For me, people online are real, but I get the impression that for a certain % of people, the internet seems... not real, a place where anything goes, etc... I mean, what are the odds of situations like we have here occuring if we were an editorial staff in a central office putting together a paper encyclopedia... For whatever reason I think it'd be a whole lot less wacky ;) Sorry for rambling on, and thanks for being you. Cheers, Sam [Spade] 22:19, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Leidenfrost effect[edit]

I saw the article on your todo, and thought you might be interested in my edit to it. There's more examples that can be added, but I thought you might have personally seen the one I mentioned. Pakaran. 00:37, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

My response[edit]

I uploaded the images, but I cut a part of them so as to let people don't see the source of the image. I have posted some articles and improve some of the other articles about Hong Kong transport. I have also added the related images to let people see the trains of the railways, and so much more. Please do not prevent me from sending me warnings.

cheung1303 10:04, 12 Oct 2004 (GMT+8)

Gordy[edit]

Gordy complained to me by email. I am impressed with how kind you are in the face of abuse from people like that. You have really got the wiki spirit, and I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate it. Jimbo Wales 15:46, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thanks! Although you are pretty much a saint yourself when it comes to dealing with them! Anyway, in this particular case I strongly suspect that he is just a kid. There's no sense getting upset over a kid's antics. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 08:09, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I answer you some questions[edit]

1. I'm Chinese. I can speak Chinese, English, Russian, French, Spanish and Arabic.\

2. Yes, sure.

3. I got sources of the photos. For most of them, I cut out the text on the photos.

User:cheung1303 10:37 (GMT+8)

You partly speak them... Where did you learn anyway? "answer" doesn't take two objects, and you have troubles with tense parallelism. lysdexia 12:55, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Sorry![edit]

Sorry - there appears to be a misunderstanding - I just discovered the 'user contributions' button, and was experimenting with it. I did not intend to 'stalk' anyone. Appologies. Also, there seems to be suspicion that I am someone else masquerading as a new user. Let me assure you I am not - please forgive my not understanding how odd looking at all of someone's edits and then editing them would look! The Recycling Troll 17:04, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
OK no problem I'm glad that's sorted out :-) Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 17:17, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Nacho king Vfd[edit]

I have rewrote this article. Will you please review, I am having difficulty initaiting a discussion about the article on its Vfd page. Please also review the page history to see how it has progressed. Thanks TK, - Jay/User:JCarriker 23:36, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC) P.S. your page is 44 kb long.

172's blocking of 216.20.9.22[edit]

Hi! You're doing very well as an admin and I think you're very polite. Now, 172 has blocked this IP (216.20.9.22) for 204 hours, which in my calculations totals more than a week. He/she's already been blocked for a few days. I would ask you to unblock this IP and talk to 172 about his blocking of users for incredibly long periods of time. Marcus2 14:56, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Well I don't agree that a week is an incredibly long time, and I have no sympathy for vandals, but I normally block for 24 hours initially and since this looks like it might be a school or university computer and therefore likely to be shared by more than one user, I've unblocked it to protect the innocents. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 16:27, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I don't know who Marcus2 is. But 216.20.9.22 struck me as a thoroughgoing vandal... Thanks for the tip. 172 16:48, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

How strange. I wonder why he didn't go directly to you? Are you scary perhaps? Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 16:51, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I hope not. Maybe the 204 hour ban gave him the impression that I was a hard-ass. I'm not, of course. (I rarely block users.) Oh well... Sorry, BTW, for blocking a school or university computer account. I didn't realize that that was the case. 172 16:59, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I deal with vandals a lot. I always do a reverse DNS before blocking becasue i know from experience that when I don't bother I inevitably get emails from irate wikipedians complaining that i've just blocked them. The other day i blocked a user for making legal threats. He was a NTL customer and his IP was a NTL transparent proxy. So in one foul swoop i managed to block the whole of NE england NTL customers. You wouldn't think we had that many wikipedians who happen to live in the NE of England and are NTL customers. I got 6 emails complaining that I'd blocked them :-( Why 204 hours btw? Why not 200? You got something against round numbers? Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 17:18, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for the tips... Regarding the 204 hours, the number's related to the default of 24 hours. When I got to the dialogue box on the block page, I'd decided to add another digit to 24 to make it 240 since this user seemed particularly persistent, making the same changes over and over again to the same articles. But I apparently pointed the cursor in the wrong position, though, making it 204 instead of 240... Sorry if this is a disappointing answer. There wasn't anything significant about the number. Nothing against round numbers either. 172 17:26, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Doesn't 172 violate name policy by not starting with a capital letter? Or is that "must" not policy? lysdexia 12:55, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Requests for adminship, ready to try again[edit]

You mentioned being willing to nominate me for adminship when I thought the time was right. I'm rapdily closing on the "magic" 1000 edit mark, and I would hope some of the users who had objections based on edit count before would reconsider, especially if this time I wasn't self-nominated. Please let me know what you think, and go ahead and nominate me if you feel that is best. Thanks! CyborgTosser 20:32, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I'm very happy to nominate you right now. Let's hope things go better for you this time. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 07:27, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Not biting newcomers[edit]

On the subject of fraternal twins, the sentence said 'fraternal twin brother'. Since fraternal means 'brother' that could be removed. But since the editor had actually changed the legitimate word 'frail' to a tortological word, then I classed it as a newbie test/vandalism. Also, various other users had left vandalism warnings on his/her talk page. As for vandal in capital letters, I didn't realise that meant shouting, and the test page was not the first from that user, I don't think. Thanks for your help, please reply @ my talk page.--Honeycake 08:00, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Speedy deletions[edit]

Hi, I just wanted to ask that you be more careful with your speedy deletions. Geno's Steaks is one of the most famous cheese steak places in the world and you deleted a decently written (though not wikied) article on it which someone had added the delete tag to. I assume it was an accident, but in the future can you please make a good faith effort to find out whether or not an article is accurate before speedily deleting it? anthony (see warning) 14:15, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Ok thanks for letting me know. I've undeleted it. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 14:45, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Both Geno's Steaks and Pat's Steaks are very notable. They are the best know steak shops in the city known for cheese steaks, Philadelphia. Of course, it is on the contributing editors to write articles in such a way that notability is clear. I think I stuck a Philly category tag onto that article, but I don't remember reading the article's content. func(talk) 14:50, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

"No sympathy for vandals"[edit]

Hi! By the way, what do you mean by this saying of yours, "I have no sympathy for vandals"? Do you mean that you wouldn't be sorry if you blocked a user or feel bad about another user being blocked for the claim of vandalism? I would think that a person like you should otherwise have sympathy for anyone. Marcus2 20:27, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the point you are trying to make. By and large i try to avoid blocking vandals, I find reverting them normally does the trick. They usually get bored and go away. But if that doesn't work then i warn them. If they choose to ignore a warning, and continue to vandalise, then no I do not feel sorry for them when they get blocked. They surely expect it? And sometimes we have no other option. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 22:36, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
The point is made by the current case study: my user page is being vandalized. No one even reacts to my crying vandals :O) - irismeister 23:06, 2004 Oct 19 (UTC)
No it's not. You posted legal threats, which were removed. That's not vandalism. We don't allow legal threats here. You are breaking our rules every time you do it. So don't come whining to me about your precious user page where you like to post personal attacks aplenty. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 23:10, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
You are breaking up your own rules - but I've learned survival in the army, stubborn survival, and a lot of vomiting-resisting techniques here in the world of double standards :O ) Justice is never a threat except for those who have something to fear, and who are threatened by that fear, not by justice. Don't worry - it will not ruin you - since Justice is a principle and you'll only pay a symbolic penny for all the editors disgusted by you and leaving Wikipedia because of you. We are all losers if you continue, because pennies add up and you are in the realm of pounds sterling by now :O) Now ban me for me "attacking" you "personally" and you'll win the jackpot as my 100th ban fan. But you'll lose in a court of law, you know it, Jim knows it, and even I happen to know it by now. Happy serene editing :O) irismeister 23:21, 2004 Oct 19 (UTC)
Why don't you leave in disgust over me? Why do you keep threatening court action against me? You know you won't do it. Bring it on. Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 23:24, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Why do people seem to think that editing a webpage is some sort of legal right? I wish Mr. Treason and Irismeister and the others would start law suits, so that they could be thrown out of court as the ridiculous nonsense that they are. You would think that people who make legal threats a part of their every day language would take the time to learn something about the law. func(talk) 23:43, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Because some of them at leaat are mentally retarded and can't help themselves :-( A bigger question is - why do we put up with some of them? Theresa Knott (The torn steak) 23:50, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Duh! Can't you people just edit pages decently? - irismeister 00:15, 2004 Oct 21 (UTC)

looked for an administrator - found you[edit]

Hi T: I recently tried to "Move' an article entitled, "Augustus St. Gaudens" to "Augustus Saint-Gaudens" but could not because [so I was told] there already was such a page. When I searched for "Saint" it set me to "St." Confused yet? Well it should be "Saint-Gaudens" because that is what the fellows name is. Was. Can you help me out? Life is Good Carptrash 03:49, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I bet Theresa is asleep right now, so I fixed it for you. — David Remahl 03:53, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
"Let sleeping dogs lie," and that goes for sleeping Theresas too. Thanks David Carptrash 04:06, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Er thanks (I think) I hope you are not calling me a dog. Theresa Knott (Not the skater) 21:55, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC0
Not at all. I said the same thing about my kids when they are sleeping and I love them dearly. Carptrash 16:00, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thanks![edit]

I accept the compromise you put on the "Clitoris page" thank you!--198 21:52, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Great. Let's hope everyone else finds it acceptable too. Theresa Knott (Not the skater) 21:56, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Stop porn and calling me a lier, or I'll ask for comments, and arbitaration[edit]

That is a bareface lie irismiester. You were not at the London wikimeet, even though you said you would be. I know this because I was there along with plenty of other people. What's more you are Dan Waniek. It's another lie when you say you are not. Theresa

Dear TK - if you insist in calling me a lier in public, and you can't prove this in a Court of Law, consider yourself warned - you lose more than time. This is not a threat. This is the 57th time I explain to you that you should behave like a grown up - responsible that is. Your public actions have public consequences. Call a medical doctor a lier in public and you make yourself your own legal file for libel. It's as you wish - I only have to place a phone call to my lawyer who has everything prepared, as you know. Let me explain that again: Justice is never a threat, no matter what your Wikipolice links and crash course taught you. They are wrong. You have no legal defense, TK. And you are liable. They will let you down for they have no money to give away for your fancy talk, painted tits, porn promotion, and erratic behavior including public offers to wear lather boots for me and I will not disclose your best yet :O) Fear not, though: I won't ask money from you, but I will put a decision of a Court of Law on your big untrained mouth! Fear of Justice is irrational. Fear not. I don't want money for you to pay for your bad behavior and insults, the misery you made to me and a few dozen others. But trust me - justice needs to be done, and I will not die before I'll have it in your case. This is a matter of principle. You could have stopped this - but you didn't because you think too high of yourself to formulate careful excuses, as needed. And as a friendly explanation, which I think might help you: Only people having something to hide, or already considering themselves guilty as you are, fear justice. If justice were a threat, would Judges be terrorists? No! Justice is a necessity. Without it, a naughty untrained girl like you can claim to be a a prima donna. Clearly, you aren't. You never edited a decent article in your life. Nil. Nada! You destroyed a few hundred, and you chased away several dozen decent, considerate, creative and lovely editors (the list of which I posess). Now bear with me that you are naughty and despite my repeated requests, you continue to be more than naughty. Ban me if you like for "personal attack" - you'll get your pint of coffe as promised, but you'll have to put up or shut up! Sorry about not letting you play with your favorite porn toy here in Wiki - but as long as Wiki is not Bomis, I won't let you delight in public porn. Your nerve and disgraceful disrespect for a fellow editor are enough. Enough is enough, TK - irismeister 00:38, 2004 Oct 21 (UTC)

Where would this law court be, exactly? Where you seem to be, France; where Theresa is, the UK; or Florida, were WikiMedia is more or less centered? "Call a medical doctor..." Why is your supposed profession an issue with regard to your fake legal threat? "I only have to place a phone call..." That one is getting kind of tired, isn't it? "Court of Law..." I love when you guys start capitalizing things in an apparent effort to make your meaningless threats seem more real. What you are is a mean-spirited bully, (at best; at worst, you are a stalker). I wonder if you are aware of this fact, and if you even care. Probably not, since, as an iridologist, you make a living off the hard-earned savings of the gullible. func(talk) 01:26, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Irismeister. I'll will call you a liar all the time you continue to tell lies. If you don't like it, tough. What's more I will continue to be disrespectful all the time you behave in a way that does not warrent respect. Phone your fucking lawyer. Do it instead of keep talking about it. You do not frighten me.
Func - yeah he is a bully. Well he tries to be anyway.He is also very very stupid if he thinks he can intimidate me. Theresa Knott (Not the skater) 06:41, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

One would hope that a "medical doctor" would know how to spell. RickK 06:58, Oct 21, 2004 (UTC)

Especially since he attacks my bad spelling every chance he gets. Theresa Knott (Not the skater) 11:03, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Is arbitaration related to tarring and feathering? Pakaran. 15:03, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
In my experience - and they aren't going to like this. It's more like when your mum says to you. "please play nice and don't be naughty ever again" Theresa Knott (Not the skater) 15:13, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Can you check User:24.69.255.205 if (s)he is a vandal?[edit]

User:24.69.255.205 appears to be systematically vandalising many pages. The person first creates a misspelling or punctuation error, then corrects it (giving a false impression of genuineness) and under this cover, vandalises articles. This kind of orchestrated vandalism is a serious threat and needs to be checked. There are many similar users. -- Sundar 07:40, Oct 21, 2004 (UTC)

I've looked through thier recent contributions but can't see the behaviour you are talking about. Can you give me a couple of specific examples. It would make things much easier for me if I could see exactly which pages you are talking about. Theresa Knott (Not the skater) 10:04, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The following series of edits might make my point clear.

  1. [6]
  2. [7]
  3. [8]
  4. [9]

See this article also [10]. -- Sundar 10:26, Oct 21, 2004 (UTC)


The 4 edits to fullmetal alchemist look a little strange but I'm not convinced. Certainly the only overall effect is to add a tiny snippet of information - we'd need to check to see if that info was true or not. As for the anti arabism article. This doesn't look like vandalism to me at all. At first glance it looks like a good faith edit?
Anyway in the meantime I've been checking things and the IP has been listed on Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress. It's a tricky one becasue there have been a mixture of good and bad edits from that IP. This may well be becasue more than one user is using that same computer. I'll keep an eye on things, and temp block if necessary. Theresa Knott (Not the skater) 10:38, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thanks Theresa. My point was not just with this user, but I start noticing similar series of edits by other anonymous users as well. Let me bring them to your notice when I find them again. -- Sundar 10:52, Oct 21, 2004 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=World_Wide_Web&diff=7052596&oldid=7052590 - changed a 'the' to 'they' and subsequently changed it back to 'the', giving an impression of genuine intention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Eukaryote&diff=7029538&oldid=7029479 - changed 'Nuclear' to 'Nuclea' and subsequently reversed it

These two anonymous users have not vandalised any page yet, but such edits are puzzling. -- Sundar 09:56, Nov 2, 2004 (UTC)

Request for evidence or remarks[edit]

I have posted comments and evidence at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Irismeister_3/Evidence and named you as a fellow complainant. If you would like your name removed, or if you want to add your own comments or evidence, I encourage you to do so. Thanks! :-) Jwrosenzweig 22:13, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

RfC[edit]

RfC's are worthless, and I have made it clear in the past that I will not participate in them. I have listed Pcb on Vandalism in Progress. RickK 23:08, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC) Threats are worthless too. As is listing someone on VIP when they are clearly not a vandal. RFC's are a precurser to arbitration. What's more they do occaionally work, not very often mind, but it's worth a try. Theresa Knott (Not the skater) 23:14, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

On reflection[edit]

On reflection, you are quite right. I do need some wider form of community support for my view (which has certainly been mainstream for most of my time here, and I think it is still) rather than squabbling with RickK one-on-one. I have written to wikien-l. THanks for your input. Pcb21| Pete 23:33, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Bloc voting[edit]

Please see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Malvern Preparatory School. Have you authorized Anthony DiPierro to vote on your behalf? RickK 23:59, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)

Thank For Protecting David Peter Reimer[edit]

Sort of. I knew whither this went. I went to Alteripse.

I expressed my doubts about phimosis as the correct diagnosis months ago (phimosis is The Excuse (96% of all infants are nonretractable so phimosis is an inappropriate diagnosis in infancy and a dubious diagnosis before puberty (yet doctors wanting more money, show the parents the nonretractability of the præpuce, and claiming that the baby has phimosis, and must have a circumcision))) to Alteripse, a doctor. I consulted with Alteripse about the diagnosis. The most probable diagnosis is iatrogenic balanitis. One thing is for certain, it could not be phimosis.

That was then. When I saw the changes of Jakew yesterday, I was it as an attempt to escape blame for what happened. I reverted, he reverted, et cetera. This morning, I realized that this gets us nowhither. I called in Alteripse with a message on talk and waited. I hoped to avoid protection, but you protected it while I waited for Alteripse. What is done is done. Since you protected David Peter Reimer anyway, I ask that it remain protected until Alteripse looks at it.

When I came to Encyclopædia WikiPedia.Org, I had fun. I created a good portion of the articles about paleocontinents and only article about a future continent (Pangæa Ultima). Then I discovered that our friends with a special interest in universal circumcision of all babies were at work. Babies take priority. Now, Encyclopædia WikiPedia.Org is not fun any more for me. I suspect that mediating between circumcisiosexuals and intactivists is not fun for you. I thought about a policy which could make Encyclopædia WikiPedia.Org fun for us again:

Make advocating nontherapeutic procedures and modifications of minors against policy.

This is an example about one could and could not advocate minors do or someone do to minors:

Advocateble:

  • Hearing Aids of/for children
  • Braces (teeth, legs, et cetera) of/for children
  • Reconstructive Surgery of/for children

Nonadvocateble:

  • Deafening (two deaf women named Candy and Sharon deafened their children -- at least they did not mutilate them or cause them physical pain) of/for children.
  • Hobbling of/for children
  • Tattooing, circumcising, piercing, Cosmetic Surgery, et cetera of/for children

¿What is your opinion?

Ŭalabio 03:24, 2004 Oct 24 (UTC)

My opinion is that i have no opinion on this matter. I protected the page because there was an edit war, plus an email by you to anticirc activists has been put on the VP. In that email you say words to the effect of - if they want a total edit war, well give them a total edit war. Well no you wont. We regular wikipedians have had enough of both the anti circ POV pushers and the pro ones. Wikipedia is not a place where you can have fights with your enemies. It's a NPOV encylopedia. We will not tolerate this type of behaviour and will keep the article protected until the danger passes. I hope i have my position clear. Theresa Knott (Not the skater) 13:06, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

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