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population[edit]

This wiki article's record of Joseon's population is incorrect.

The official position of Korean academia on the population of Joseon in the 15th to 19th centuries is as follows.

http://contents.nahf.or.kr/item/level.do?levelId=edeah.d_0004_0030_0020_0030#self

I think the population related part should be restored to the old content edited before 16:16, 7 May 2023‎. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sega23days (talkcontribs)

Opinions of Joseon's population historians and economists.[edit]

Regarding the population of Joseon, Professor Shin Yong-ha and Kwon Tae-wan calculated it based on the population growth rate. (On Population Estimates of the Yi Dynasty, 1392-1910)

In addition, Professors Lee Young-gu and Lee Ho-cheol used the population growth rate of the modern era to reverse-calculate and count the figures. (The Estimation of Population in Choson Dynasty (Ⅱ))

However, Western historians, such as Fairbank, Reischauer, and Professor Craig, counted the population of Joseon based on household survey data, and they counted the population of Joseon in 1590 as 5 million. However, as recorded in the Geography of the Annals of King Sejong, the actual population of Joseon during the reign of King Sejong varied greatly to the extent that the actual population at that time could only be determined by multiplying the surveyed population by 8 to 10 times. Therefore, there is a problem with the views of Western historians who use only family register data to determine the population. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sega23days (talkcontribs) 09:55, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is Japan a vassal state of Korea?[edit]

The article states that the Japanese paid tribute to Yi Dynasty Korea. This is a misleading term. Japan never paid tribute to Korea. Residents of Tsushima, a remote island, independently conducted diplomacy and paid tribute to Korea. Of course, Tsushima is a territory of Japan, but to avoid misunderstanding, "Japanese" should be rewritten as "Tsushima Residents". Op221 (talk) 04:21, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Stop adding info without sources[edit]

This article is already long enough; info without sources is close to useless at this point. If you want to contribute to this article, focus on either finding sources for claims that don't already have them or deleting stuff that's poorly written and unsourced. toobigtokale (talk) 10:55, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Population Statistics?[edit]

It seems to me the population stats for both the Joseon article and the Silla article seem inaccurate? The Baekje, Goryeo and Goguryeo statistics seem to be somewhat consistent and accurate, but for Joseon and Silla I've seen some very broad range of numbers + very poor sources Sunnyediting99 (talk) 02:40, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If there's no opposition, I will remove the 1927 source and look around for more modern estimates Sunnyediting99 (talk) 02:06, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just added this information, it seems previous edits were made a year ago and cited 1927 data, while modern data is very different from it. Also it appears initial first edits were for households not population Sunnyediting99 (talk) 03:51, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]