Talk:Australasian gannet

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Australasian gannets (example pictured) established a breeding colony on Young Nick's Head after being attracted there by decoy birds and pre-recorded calls?
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Sula bassana[edit]

Query "The Australian Gannet (Morus serrator or Sula bassana)..."

Sula bassana is the Northern Gannet. Should this be Sula serrator, or is it a view that this is a subspecies of Northern? jimfbleak 12:53, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Moving to Australasian Gannet[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was (seems to be) Move Duja 11:14, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Australian Gannet → Australasian Gannet —(Discuss)— seems more neutral as these gannets also occur in New Zealand. Although a name doesn't necessarily have anything to do with where a creature is found, if there are two common names and one is more location neutral I feel the more location neutral one should be preferred. Also although I don't like use Google to establish prevalence "Australasian Gannet" does have more hits then "Australian Gannet" — Nil Einne 07:58, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, one of the major reason I don't like using Google is because it tends to have a pro-US and pro-Western bias even cf the number of English speakers. This probably doesn't really apply to this case Nil Einne 07:58, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move the bird project has a good set of rules for the common names of birds see this; the HANZAB lists this species as the Australasian Gannet so the article should be moved there. --Peta 02:38, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - what are the official bodies etc for naming birdies? I would recommend that you use the official name. (and I say that as someone with both New Zealand and Australian citizenship) --Midnighttonight remind to go do uni work! 03:08, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - AFAIK there are no real official bodies (true with most organisms). Rather there are books etc published and often one or several of these are considered 'authorities' on the subject by most of the scientific community. In some cases, one specific book is so significant it accepted as the authority by most scientists but this is often not the case. In any case, scientists tend to be primarily interested in the scientific name and taxonomic relationships, common names are often partially ignored. But the link provided by Peta is very helpful (I should have looked for something first) and IMHO anyway it's pretty much settled since no one disputes the change and the de facto authority we use supports the change Nil Einne 10:50, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move as per Peta. Pizzey and Knight "The Field Guide to the Birds of Australia" also uses Australasian Gannet. --Bduke 03:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Takapu[edit]

Does anyone know what the Maori word's etymology is? Richard001 (talk) 05:51, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See https://pollex.shh.mpg.de/entry/takupu/, which is now cited in the article. Nurg (talk) 09:39, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Audio/video[edit]

I'll get some soon. Richard001 (talk) 02:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Got both (though there are some more pictures and another video to come). Richard001 (talk) 07:27, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Dunkleosteus77 (talk · contribs) 02:26, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Dunkleosteus77[edit]

the custom I have seen in bird books is straight inches. AFAIRC our FAs have followed suit Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:55, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
yes, linked now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:35, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed that sentence as it is covered elsewhere Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:38, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
time isn't specified in the sources, but i am presuming it is over several days from the way it is written Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:38, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The source says, "becoming white when dry," so I think it might be an overnight, over-a-couple-of-hours sorta deal. You might just wanna leave it at "The egg surface fades to white when dry" and it doesn't say it's chalky white, it says the egg's chalky as in the texture ("thick chalky coating")   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  21:04, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:50, 21 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
not specified, but I think the bird cradles them from above in the webbing Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:38, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You should probably say it like that. The source says it's, "brooded by both parents on top of webs of feet," and also that seems to contradict what you say here that incubation, "is done mainly by the female"   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  21:04, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
the genus/family material says both sexes, the article and species account say females does more. not exclusive Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:35, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, in that case, just specify the egg rests on top of the feet   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  21:14, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:23, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I have not heard the tail retrices called that (wing one yes but tail ones not). Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:52, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In that case you might wanna specify we're talking about tail feathers here   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  21:04, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
problem is, source doesn't specify that either so am guessing. Also the primary is also a flight feather so saying "primary and flight feather" is incorrect. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:38, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
are there any other flight feathers other than primaries and retrices? You could just leave it at “flight feathers” if the source allows that. I don’t know enough about birds to know if that’s correct or not   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  21:14, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I just left it at "flight feathers" - I thinkthis is sufficient for the article on thinking about it Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:22, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
yes Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:52, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. When does that happen?   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  21:04, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately this source doesn't say, but this happens with many chicks - they are overfed and so have plenty of reserves when they first become independent (during which they lose weight). Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:52, 21 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think bowing display needs to be in italics because it makes it appear like a complex vocab term or something when it just means they're bowing. The same goes for fencing display and sky pointing   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  02:26, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
ok, done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:00, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
yes, fixed now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:38, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
the population is in flux, growing and ebbing - birds are starting and abaondoing colonies over time. I was trying to find a source that discussed this. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:56, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well you must have read that somewhere in some form. If you can't find any really big details on it, it's good to at least say it   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  21:04, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Found it and added. The rocky outcrops the colonies are on often have limited space, so eventually the gannets have to find a new place, sometimes right nearby on the mainland. Added now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:07, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Is Māori language - added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:10, 21 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
does it mean anything?   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  21:21, 21 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I can't find anything. Have looked online extensively. Will ask elsewhere. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:56, 21 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Question re clutch[edit]

"One clutch of a single pale blue egg is laid yearly..."

Can a single egg be a clutch? I thought clutch meant multiple eggs. (Erroneously asked this in archive, so moving to here}.Moriori (talk) 21:38, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

looking at google, it suggests 'yes' Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:21, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm. Wikipedia is not so sure. Clutch (eggs) says '"A clutch of eggs is the group of eggs produced by birds, amphibians, or reptiles...". Moriori (talk) 00:24, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Clutch in the context of a metric would include clutches of one though, and is commonly used in that context in avian biology. Sabine's Sunbird talk 03:39, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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