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Reincarnation claim[edit]

@Mungo68b: Please can you explain where in this German source, quoting the original German phrase, and what you believe is the English translation, that it indicates that Alevis believe in reincarnation, as per this diff - I am not personally knowledgeable about the subject, so am happy to be convinced, but I cannot, at the moment, see any indication of this in the basic google translation of the article. Iskandar323 (talk) 19:10, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Die alevitische Glaubenslehre ist ein Weg zur Vervollkommnung des Menschen. [...] Hölle oder Paradies existieren nicht. [...] Die Aleviten glauben an die Seelenwanderung, sagt Ercan Yıldız." English: "The Alevi faith doctrine is a way to the perfection of man. [...] Hell or Paradise do not exist. [...] The Alevis believe in transmigration of souls, says Ercan Yıldız." I don't know any source which says different concerning Alevi afterlife beliefs, so I thought this information could improve the article. --Mungo68b (talk) 00:08, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Mungo68b: Thank you for highlighting the relevant passage in the German. It does seem that there is some sort of Alevi connection to the concept of soul transmigration/re-incarnation (see also: [1], [2], [3]), particularly in Alevism in Turkey, and may therefore be appropriate to include somewhere, but the link is not straightforward and probably needs to be accompanied by some additional explanation. Iskandar323 (talk) 07:18, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

the chart[edit]

probably deleted by mistake, the older versions had some error in their chARACTERS, these errors are corrected as well161.253.74.2 (talk) 21:11, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

it became "borderline unintelligible muddle" because someone altered the borderlines, corrections made161.253.74.2 (talk) 22:06, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alevi people are Turkish nomads not Kurdish because kurdish people are from mesopotamia and never been in (Turkistan) Turkmen[edit]

Delete All Kurdish word with Turkish and Turks because Kurdish are Şafiî people and Alevi People Turkish nomad ethnical from Türkmen From (Türkistan) izzettin Dogan HaydarHaydarHaydar (talk) 21:45, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a source to back up your claims? PhilKnight (talk) 21:48, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind. Blocked. PhilKnight (talk) 22:33, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kizilbashism and "Teachings of" infobox section[edit]

"Anatolian alevism" is really an artificial, exogenous academic term, thats generally not used outside of acaedmia; some sources in the article opt for "kizilbashism", which is in fact a common colloquial term that is actually in use, I think its preferable. Another thing is that the "Teachings of" section in the Infobox is incomplete: at the very least, the figues mentioned in the citations of this very article should be mentioned.

That's about it, I made a more in-detail post about these topics, with the specific citations themselves, but when I posted it, it didn't show up, it wasn't deleted, it just didn't show up, maybe a bug you guys should look into. 2A01:C22:8511:8600:B554:691:4421:CD38 (talk) 18:52, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You’re not allowed to edit till your block expires. [4] HistoryofIran (talk) 21:59, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Christianity[edit]

Forbes says Alevi is a mystical belief that is rooted in Islam and Sufism with some traditions of Christianity and Shamanism. citing BBC's news, which is nonsense. The narrator uses only "prophet Jesus". Of course this has nothing to do with Christianity but Islamic prophet Isa. Second source says it's a claim, not fact. This has no place on the lead, which is factually incorrect. Beshogur (talk) 15:51, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]