Talk:Charles de Batz de Castelmore d'Artagnan

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Mémoires[edit]

The original Mémoires de Mr d'Artagnan by Gatien de Courtilz de Sandras is currently being proofread at PG DP EU -- Jim Regan 17:10, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)

"most extravagant party ever held"?[edit]

"When it was finished, Fouquet had the most extravagant party ever held" It sure sounds like a great party, but the wording of that seems a little strong. Is there a reference for this party as the most extravagant ever?

D'Artagnan meat company[edit]

Isn't D'Artagnan also the name of a meat company in the United States? What's the connection?Lynhagan 14:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

D'Artagnan is a brand of the Winn Meat Company. I don't know why they chose the name.--Ccady 19:01, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It is a separate company based in Newark, New Jersey: https://www.dartagnan.com/.  --Lambiam 07:11, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nights of Cabiria[edit]

In the early 50s film by Fellini, Cabiria's canary was named d'Artagnan. I don't know the real name of the bird, but he did a fine job of acting in the movie.69.122.62.231 (talk) 15:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fuzzy Ball Sack[edit]

i believe he never was a fuzzy ball sack ("served Louis XIV as captain of the Musketeers of the Guard as a fuzzy ball sack") but if he was its none of our business, i'm erasing that.

In ST: TOS[edit]

In a first-season episode of Star Trek: The Original Series ("The Naked Time," season one, episode four) Lieutenant Hikaru Sulu, under the influence of an alien virus, takes on the persona of D'Artagnan and threatens crewmembers with a fencing foil. Is this worth including? Shutupwinking (talk) 04:50, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is he specifically d'Artagnan, or a generic swashbuckler? —Tamfang (talk) 22:44, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal with D'Artagnan[edit]

I don't think it was a very good idea to create two separate articles. Alexandre Dumas' d'Artagnan is not a fictional character (...) loosely based on a real person, he is the highly fictionalized version of a real person. Granted, most of the things Dumas has him do or say in the novels are entirely fictional, but the character is nonetheless supposed to be the same person as the historical figure. In Twenty years after and the Vicomte de Bragelonne, he does several of the things the historical d'Artagnan is known for (i.e. serving under the Fronde, serving as Louis XIV's guard, arresting Nicolas Fouquet, dying at the battle of Masstricht). In Gatien Courtil de Sandraz's novel (which inspired Dumas) he was equally supposed to be the historical figure. Athos, Porthos and Aramis are arguably fictional characters (even though they were based on historical figures, they share only the names - or rather nicknames - with them) but d'Artagnan is not.

In Dumas' novels, Richelieu, Louis XIII, Anne of Austria, the Duke of Buckingham, Louis XIV, Nicolas Fouquet, etc, each do and say things that the historical figures never did or said, including some very far-fetched things. Should we create separate articles for these fictionalized versions, too ? If we follow the same logic as the d'Artagnan article, we should create Richard III of England (Shakespeare character), since the real Richard III of England was very different from the character in the play ? IMHO keeping separate articles is misleading. I just noticed the existence Cyrano de Bergerac (fictional character), which poses the same problem IMHO. Jean-Jacques Georges (talk) 14:33, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merged the articles. Jean-Jacques Georges (talk) 19:35, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

de Batz-Castelmore or de Batz de Castelmore?[edit]

de Batz-Castelmore as in the article title and the IPA transcription, or de Batz de Castelmore as spelled in the lede? I find the latter more plausible. —Tamfang (talk) 04:46, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fouquet's arrest[edit]

Louis' order to arrest Fouquet was not based on envy, but on proven, massive embezzlement of the treasury and Fouquet is considered one of the greatest thieves in the history of France. The version given in the article seems purely based on Dumas' Ten Years After, where he mischievously (and characteristically) casts Fouquet as the hero. A supremely readable biography of Louis XIV by Dumas-fan Vincent Cronin gives a detailed account. //roger.duprat.copenhagen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.138.240.161 (talk) 07:34, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dogtanian Credit?[edit]

In the Film and TV section, the animated Dogtanian and the Three Muskehounds is missing. He was voiced by Cam Clarke in the original series and Dave Mallow in the follow up, as can be seen on the wiki page for the series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogtanian_and_the_Three_Muskehounds. Is this an accidental omission, or is the section for live-action pieces only? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.54.88.146 (talk) 21:31, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 16 February 2017[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved. Unopposed for over a week. Jenks24 (talk) 07:43, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Charles de Batz-Castelmore d'Artagnan → Charles de Batz de Castelmore d'Artagnan – to match the body text and the French article. No hyphen, another "de". 202.92.130.234 (talk) 07:40, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Code M[edit]

The 2015 Dutch children’s movie “Code M” is a story about some youngsters searching for D’Artagnan’s sword. There are flashbacks to his last few days, showing his death and what happened to his body and his sword. It might be worth including. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3636010/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 Minicarmen (talk) 04:35, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

bad English[edit]

This must be a bad translation from somewhere: "But quickly the two spouses didn't live together anymore" Fix it. 100.15.127.199 (talk) 13:51, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Death: fact or fiction[edit]

I do not doubt the validity of the claim here made per se; he died in that battle. But the wikipedia article has only a short sentence on it.

Considering how he lateron became important for fiction (just look at all the three musketeer stories), but was actually quite an elderly man when he died, I think it would be helpful if the wikipedia article could use two or three sentences to explain how he died, when he died, how he died etc... right now it reads a bit "random" how he died, he was just shot? But an important commandeer on that day? How is that so easily possible? Would be nice if wikipedia could expand on that part, accurately (of course we need facts, not fiction; the books have more than enough fiction, we should strive for maximum, objective and verifiable facts on wikipedia). 2A02:8388:1641:8380:9C8:F25E:B493:DAA3 (talk) 19:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good! If YOU want to know what happened, why don't YOU FIND OUT??? That's what we all do if and when we think there is something missing: we research, find reliable citations and add it to Wikipedia! THAT'S how this encyclopedia was compiled. Shir-El too 18:26, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fort the seal?[edit]

Hi, not a native speaker of EN, but the sentence "When his father died, he is present on 16 August, 1783 fort the seals to his apartment in Paris" looks weird. FR Wiki has it that on his father's death, Mrs. D. assisted in sealing the apartments of his father in Paris. Idk if "fort" means that. T 84.208.65.62 (talk) 11:45, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I checked the French article, which states: "At the death of his father, he attended on August 16, 1783 the sealing of his apartment in Paris." and changed the relevant line in English. The other was probably a typo. I did not see a reference to Mrs. D. In that connection, nor do I understand the significance of the whole procedure. Cheers! Shir-El too 18:59, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thx for helping. No, "Mrs. D" was one of my mind-typos, I guess. Cheers to you too =o) T 84.208.65.62 (talk) 14:09, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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