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I do not think the stub tag serves this article best; it already has more than a stubs worth of content. The expand template seems made for this purpose. If you don't think so, perhaps you could consider using the Template:Section stub tag instead? See User:Triddle/stubsensor/20050516#Conflict_resolution and User:Triddle/stubsensor/20050516#Your_mission -- Triddle 17:25, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)

Portuguese Language[edit]

"Polonia" also means Poland in Portuguese, in addition to the languages already listed. It does, however, carry a circumflex, i.e., "Polônia", so I don't know if it disqualifies it for mention in the article. -- tmegapscm 2005-08-07

"Polonia" is the name for Poland in a whole lot of languages. It wouldn't make sense to list them all here. – Kpalion (talk) 10:07, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Edit[edit]

A part of the Polish citizens that migrated to USA were Jewish, but not all, so I think that the words "were actually" is incorrect and misleading. Informationguy

Polish diaspora[edit]

I think the search for Polish Diaspora should redirect here, as non-polish people may not know what Polonia is, I didn't.

Polish Jews[edit]

Are those descended from Polish Jews considered to be part of Polonia by modern-day Poles? My Jewish grandmother's parents came from Poland, and they definitely did not consider themselves to be Poles. --Jfruh (talk) 21:51, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It depends on individual cases. I've known both. Basically if you keep up the Polish language and share in some of the culture (music, etc.) then yeah, you're part of the Polonia, broadly defined. It's mostly a matter of self identification. It might also be worth noting that not all Poles living abroad (who still identify themselves as Poles) consider themselves to be part of any "official" Polonia. Sometimes those organizations got their own politics and subculture which can seem strange to, say, more recent, arrivals.radek (talk) 06:59, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Name Change from Polonia to Polish diaspora[edit]

"Diaspora" itself is an ethnic-specific word for the Jewish people outside of Israel and Judah. And that remains the default meaning unless the word is qualified (e.g. "German diaspora"). Polonia is the loan word with the most specific meaning. Despite my concerns, is there agreement on the rename? RevelationDirect (talk) 01:07, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

15 to 20 Million[edit]

Hi,

I removed the 15 million because 15 is far too low and impossible, alone the top 4 countries (USA, Germany, Brazil and France) are around 15 million together, 900.000 in White Russia, 500.000 in UK, 450.000 in Argentinia, 300.000 in Lithuania and 300k in Russia, 150.000 in Ireland, 75.000 in Latvia, 100.000 in Italy and very much countries with more than 1.000.

See the graphic (if its not grey you found polish people there) or just check the nice table in the german article (countries with flags and numbers, so you don't need to know 1 word german to understand the list):

From South Africa to Norway or Iceland, from New Zealand to Germany (New Zealand is the country with the largest distance to Germany and I think South Africa and Iceland could be the same) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kilon22 (talk • contribs) 13:52, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The use of national populations as the key to colour an entire country is misleading because it does not reflect the population of the host country. The United States has 9 times as many people of polish descent as Canada, but it also has 9 times as many of everybody. I would suggest using circles. A large circle would represent 1 million poles, a smaller circle (1/3rd the size for example) would represent 100,000, a smaller circle yet 10,000, and so on. Or for less than 100,000 you could use a segment of the 100,000 circle. Jamescobban (talk) 09:58, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Denmark numbers not adding up[edit]

The table states 5000 Poles in Denmark, which is supposed to be 0.001% of Denmark's population...

which doesn't make much sense, as it would mean there are 500 million of Danes in total. — Preceding unsigned comment added by McCartney~plwiki (talk • contribs) 19:49, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Jews[edit]

I put https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Polish_diaspora&diff=922026951&oldid=921889351 back because the source is a tenured academic cited 100s of times. Exclusion of Jewish Holocaust survivors should be stated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.52.79.24 (talk) 12:42, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

All that this article is saying is that this and some other English Wikipedia articles are incomplete. Feel free to expand them. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:44, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Polish diaspora[edit]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Polish diaspora's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Popt":

  • From Syrians in Denmark: "Population at the first day of the quarter by region, sex, age (5 years age groups), ancestry and country of origin". Statistics Denmark. Retrieved 2 December 2017.
  • From Eritreans in Denmark: "FOLK1C: Population at the first day of the quarter by region, sex, age (5 years age groups), ancestry and country of origin". Statistics Denmark. Retrieved 2 December 2017.
  • From Poles in Sweden: "Foreign-born persons by country of birth, age, sex and year". Statistics Sweden. Retrieved 18 November 2017.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 13:38, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Brazil numbers highly exaggerated[edit]

Brazil's population is overwhelmingly black or mestizo. However, all pages related to Europeans settled in Brazil cite exaggerated numbers. The same goes with German-Brazilians, British-Brazilians, etc. Neighbouring Argentina accounts for half a million Polish and its national football team has two playes of Polish ancestry (Foyth and Dybala). Can anybody cie a Polish-Brazilian in Brazil's national team? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.189.238.80 (talk) 19:23, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Diaspora numbers can be tricky. However, the number of football players of Polish ethnicity on the national team isn't a yardstick for anything.Nyx86 (talk) 15:42, 17 March 2021 (UTC) strike sock[reply]
A little knowledge ...
The fact is that from 1850s onwards Brazil and in particular, Curitiba, received many European immigrants, among them, around 300,000 people from Poland![1] Po Mieczu (talk) 12:33, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Jarosław Fischbach. "Nuevo Mundo: Curitiba – the centre of Polish Diaspora in Brazil. Part.I". linktopoland.com. Retrieved 2015-03-27.
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