Talk:Dance music (traditional)

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mikkalai

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This page pretty much overlaps with the first sense of the phrase "dance music": music to accompany traditional dances, in the dance music article, they should be merged. --Lexor 08:40, 21 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I am aware of that (I cross-linke them myself :-). But there is also a subtle difference between "dance music" and "dance as musical form". I am not a musicologist, but I definitely feel it.

For example nearly all what Brittney Spears generates is "dance music", but it is not "dance as musical form".

On the other hand, "Sabre Dance" by Aram Khachaturian is "dance", both by name and the intention (it is from ballet "Gayane"), but I would hesitate to call it "dance music" in common sense.

BTW, "Sabre Dance" is an interestion example of "double sublimation" of artistic movement: it is dance that is part of dance (ballet) that depicts kind of War dance, rather than an actual war.

Therefore I put my (i.e., Polish) part into a separate page and I suggest to leave the final decision to experts, rather than to amateurs like myself.

mikkalai 21 Nov 2003

OK, I see your point. So maybe we need to move the information from dance music about traditional "dance music" to this article, although we should retitle it as something better, because "dance music" and "dance (music)" are too close lexically to differentiate them well. I suggest we move your new page to Music for dance. --Lexor 10:12, 22 Nov 2003 (UTC)

On second thoughts, I think dance music (traditional) would be better title. --Lexor 10:24, 22 Nov 2003 (UTC)

A possible meaning of "dance" is a form of musical composition. May be the case of ballet (music) will make the issue clearer.

There is ballet as complete performance and there is ballet as music. Some ballets (music) have never been put on stage.

Just the same, there is dance and dance. Some waltzes are impossible to dance to, but recognizable as waltzes.

I am sorry I confused you with an unhappy example of "Brittney Spears". But on the positive side, this brought to attention still another semantic distinction within "Dance music": "music written with a dance in mind" and "danceable music".

Once again, before the next round of "editing wars", let a third person talk first. --mikkalai

OK, how about Dance (musical form)? (By the way, you can easily sign and date your Talk posts by including four tildes: ~~~~ at the end of your post, makes it easier to keep track of who said what, when.) --Lexor 03:37, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Much better IMO, and I did consider this, but what about consistency? There are quite a few references such as Mass (music) --Mikkalai 03:52, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Well consistency is good, all things being equal, but we shouldn't be a slave to it. In the case of Mass (music), there is no well-known Mass music to confuse it with, but there is with Dance music and Dance (music). --Lexor 04:01, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)