Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rakiva Kelly

Rakiva Kelly

Rakiva Kelly was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete.

Some woman, now unfortunately deceased, whose only claim to notability was being the wife of a football player, who doesn't seem notable either. R.I.P. and all that but I don'tthink she deserves an article. Dunc|☺ 21:28, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

• Sad, but delete. Elf-friend 21:35, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
• Speedily deleted as part of a mass copyvio; its creator, who created some two hundred other stubs of similar length and dubious notability, has been blocked. Rdsmith4— Dan | Talk 22:21, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

This article has been recreated and I believe it is no longer a copyvio. Unfortunately, it is still not notable. silsor 04:46, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)

It seems to be by the same person. Check through the rest of his contributions and his talk page. Academic Challenger 05:07, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Note: Please do not draw a line through mine (and other users's !) votes!!! My vote for deletion stands. Elf-friend 07:38, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I drew lines through them because they were for a different version of the article and from an old vote, but still useful for understanding the discussion. silsor 07:54, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)

I voted for deletion on the basis of the non-notability of the person herself, not because of the article content per se, old or new. From your explanation I understand that you did not have any negative intentions by using the strikethrough, but I still do not want to be in the position to have to recheck all my old VfDs because somebody decided that they didn't apply to a newer version of the article any more. I also understand that the old version was speedy deleted as part of a mass anti-copyvio action, but that avoided the "normal" VfD-ing of the article (old or new) because of the non-notability of the subject. Elf-friend 11:54, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• Merge and Redirect to Lewis Kelly who, as a pro athlete, qualifies as notable. -- Jmabel | Talk 08:04, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)

Are all pro athletes, by definition, notable? (Or all actors, politicians, etc.?) Elf-friend 11:54, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'd say - definitely not. Pro athletes need to have achieved some length of career, and some level of success to be notable. Obviously, a more notable league requires less time than a less notable one (playing five games for the England national football team would qualify you as perhaps notable enough, playing five games for Halifax Town wouldn't). Average Earthman 16:10, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• Delete: Nothing to redirect to. Dependent fame is not fame. Wikipedia is not a memorial site. Geogre 15:20, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• Delete - It's sad, but not notable - rernst 20:20, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• Delete, non-notable. RadicalSubversiv E 23:08, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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