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Kardashev scale

I discovered this article and decided over the last few days to do a lot of work on it. Given that, I will list here what I think can be done, and other issues I noted:

1. Since I just reworked large portions of the article, I hope someone can help me throughly NPOV this, because of course, remenants of my POV may be stuck in sections that I wrote.
2. With all the external references, I think this could be highly internalized, with large extentions of sections into subarguments and analysises. I disliked either referencing to sources that are not that accurate in POV, or better express information that I think is relevant, but must be phrased such that no copywrite issues are involved. I have already gone through the article and made sure that no single point comes from any one source, and that there is a lot of information behind any statement.
3. The scale was made with SETI as in mind, if anyone can provide a section about SETI's applications of the scale and any information upon its other uses, or even popular references to the scale, that would be great. It seems to be prominent in science fiction community discussions, but I only have cursory involvement with that, so I only provided as much as I knew from discussions from other people, along with the literature that I have encountered. This also leads back to a POV issue, because of my limit on sources that I have access to.
4. If someone could either get an image/graph of global power production growth, that would be great because I had a tough time finding one, given by the fact that there is none on the page.
5. Extended section on current values, with fractional scale values pertaining to particular dates (ie. development of steam engine, light bulb, World War I, World War II, 1970's energy crisises, and numbers for the last three years (2002, 2003, 2004). Maybe a discussion of near term (20-100 years) predictions, along from predictions of time until crossing the Type I, and Type II barriers.
6. I put in information about civilization cycles, but can someone help me find a source that talks about this that doesn't proclaim the 'end of the world is 'nigh' or explain how 'alien gods will decend upon the Earth, angered by the human race, to destroy us all on December 21, 2012.' Well, maybe I am paraphrasing a little, but you get the point.
7. If anyone enjoys to mercilessly criticize and correct grammar and spelling, be my guest, whatever makes the article better.

Thanks for anyone's help in advance. [[User:Ctrl_build|Ctrl_build\^talk]] 20:01, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC) (Sorry Solitude, I thought the style of the signature was cool, hope you consider imitation the highest form of flattery)

• I have prepped my talk page for all discussions and commentary, talk, and I would prefer that editing discussions occur there or the article's talk page, while suggestion discussions occur here. I will be away/busy until probably next Tuesday, but I will try to respond to any questions before then. --[[User:Ctrl build|Ctrl_build^talk

]] 05:55, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

• I just hit the motherload in terms of references, can someone help me get together and compile all this information. From the article On the Inevitability and the Possible Structures of Supercivilizations Karadashev developed a second scale on possible outcomes of extraterrestial detection/nondectection.
  • References:
  • Kardashev, N. S. "Transmission of Information by Extraterrestrial Civilizations," Soviet Astronomy, 8, 217 (1964)
  • Search for Artificial Stellar Sources of Infrared Radiation, by F. J. Dyson
  • Supercivilizations as Possible Products of the Progressive Evolution of Matter
  • On the Inevitability and the Possible Structures of Supercivilizations
  • The Radio Search For Intelligent Extraterrestral Life
  • Detectability of Extraterrestrial Technological Activities
  • ENERGY AND CULTURE

--[[User:Ctrl build|Ctrl_build^talk

]] 22:23, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)