Talk:Odalism

Much of this article makes no sense to me. Can anyone else help? -- The Anome 21:20, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)

What exactly are you having trouble with? I re-added what you removed hoping the line "because of it's rejection of logic or theoretical discoveries from different cultures" could clear up the misunderstanding of it's purpose. Nagelfar 00:08, 2 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

As a note, I don't believe "natural order, natural law" are related ideas to Odalism because of Odalism's extreme (though objective) moral relativism, it is more of a "hard determinist positivism." So I'll remove those unless someone wants to present an argument to the contrary. Nagelfar 00:24, 2 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know enough about it to argue one way or the other; I was the one who researched some rather distateful webpages to try to make some sense out of this article.... several of them had pages on or links to "natural order/law" issues, and most included it in their keywords. Make of that what you will. Catherine - talk 17:04, 3 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of it is simply not written in good English grammar. I assume that a lot of the work must have been done by someone who is not a native English speaker. That's all good, but the result is that it's very difficult to follow what is being said. Could someone who does understand it please rework it into proper English sentences? At the moment, it's hard to edit because the fragmentary sentences make it difficult to know what it's really trying to say. I mean no offence - whoever has done all the work so far has made a valuable initial contribution, but we need to make it more readily comprehensible. Metamagician3000 06:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I somewhat agree, though won't venture such change myself. Nagelfar 05:05, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Burzum is awesome they have some gods that do stuff liek thor and odal or somthing i thougtbh it was like norse but more specific right?

Germanic/Teutonic is maybe what you mean. Nordic is a branch of the Germanic family of languages, ethnicities, cultures. Though, that's more 'broad' than 'specific'. However each 'smaller' tribe within that Germanic whole had pretty much the same Gods & religious rooted terminology, so more specifically as well, yes. I believe Odalism strives to be as specific as possible. Nagelfar 05:05, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Changed "Folkish" to "Völkisch", as "folkish" led to a disambiguition page, and völkisch is clearly what is meant in this context 195.41.97.4 12:10, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Needs attention[edit]

I find it hard to make sense of this article in its current form. This needs a rewrite with proper references from reliable sources, preferably from peer-reviewed literature on this subject. If they can't be supplied, it probably needs to be put up for AfD as unverifiable. -- The Anome 20:51, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, this article reads like one person's opinion Borohachi (talk) 21:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge[edit]

Ok, I wrote in the edit summary: "It's the ideology of the heathen front and the lag [<-should say lack) of sources does not warrant two articles"; I really didn't expect that someone removes the merge-tag again with the edit summary: REMOVED UNDATED UNDISCUSSED MERGER TAG; (caps sic)AFAIK the bot adds the date anyway, any even if not, if you are concerned about this, add it yourself. And I did not think that I would need to start a new section on the discussion page, since I could fit my argument in the edit summary. Now, if you think this article should not be merged, you have to find some more sources on "Odalism", preferably reliable ones. I superficially checked the peer-reviewed literature on this subject, and at a first look it doesn't mention "Odalism", it does mention the Heathen Front, though. Zara1709 (talk) 05:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of the date bot which is slow, it is polite to date the tag and required to open the discussion on the talk page. It is prefereable to indicate which direction you propose for the merge (to or from) unless you are unclear on the direction. Working together makes it easier to clear the backlog of merge requests either by performing the merge or deleting the obsolete tags. --Kevin Murray (talk) 00:51, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support Please merge this and redirect Heathen Front. Thank you. Sebastian scha. (talk) 20:21, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vikernes[edit]

I've switched this to redirect to Varg Vikernes, since he invented the concept and his connection the Heathen Front is dubious. —Ashley Y 09:23, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I switched this to redirect Varg Vikernes#Political affiliation. "Odalism" is a term coined by Varg Vikernes for his political ideology. This page only cites articles by Varg Vikernes, no reliable third-party sources. It also has yet to be cited that Heathen Front called itself "Odalist." —DrPepper47 23:10, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]